Just a side note...

On 13/11/2024 21:14, Dave Crocker wrote:

Emails also often flow indirectly through these networks, undergoing redirection, expansion into multiple copies via aliases and mailing lists, as well as rewriting and filtering before eventually arriving at a mailbox or being processed by a receiving software agent.

While 'indirect' has well-established context in many email technical circles, I believe it does not have clear, consistent, and precise meaning.  So it needs to be defined here, with more than an example.

I see this is an extremely important point, since the movement that has taken place with email is to consider tight integration of domain name and sending platform, in substantial contrast with the way email worked for perhaps 40 years.  That is, 'indirect' is tending to be treated as almost aberrant, or at least as problematic.


I prefer the latter term, "problematic", rather than "aberrant" or, according to the upcoming SMTP standard, "misguided".

Sadly, Section 3.4 of rfc5321bis doesn't define forwarding any better. Its definition of what "can be treated as a continuation of email transit" is overly strict. In particular, forwarding that is limited to the set of modifications and actions described there never breaks typical DKIM signatures.

Reality differs. DMARC's alignment requirement is an attempt at capturing the concept of legitimacy. I'd consider that email worked well at the beginning of that 40 years period, when every operator was legit. Later on, the amount of guesswork required to filter became so shattering that many an operator gave up running their own servers.

I agree it's problematic.


Best
Ale
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