Hi, > Am 16.09.2015 um 23:58 schrieb Romaneev Vasily <enter...@yandex.ru>: > > > Dear Michael > > you write a great post. > This may be an offtopic, but i think it's relevant on this thread: > >>> Btw - I don't remember you asking at http://www.monitoring-portal.org which >>> also is an option to reach out to the community and developers. You will >>> certainly recognize many of us there as well. > > But i want to tell about my experience with monitoring-portal.org. > 1. So many german language topic. I think, they should split topics, based on > language or add a language filter.
Please note that monitoring-portal.org is run by German community members independent from the Icinga project. I'm there as moderator asking to help and started doing it mainly in my spare time. Luckily my employer allows me to work on the community channels during workhours nowadays. The forum has been "German" for a long time. Icinga and other forks made it "international". I did not expect that it would be accepted that fast and users also going for English. Though the admins and community over there have the best and longest experience and passion about monitoring you won't find anywhere else - since 2003 which is a fairly long time. Even if you think that German is hard to understand, think about those whose English is not perfect but still trying to give go a platform and help out. I personally don't think that you should split a forum by language. That way you'll lose at least half of each members except some reading everywhere. It may be harder to catch up with a multi language community but I am grateful that the community happening on nonitoring-portal.org works that smooth. We don't have the resources to run our own icinga forums, and I bet if we would we would have more of these threads why questions go unanswered. So you'll see why monitoring-portal.org is there for you, still leaving you a choice. > 2. Many questions on mon-portal is unanswered. Compared to the amount of answers provided especially in the icinga section, I wouldn't call it many. Though you're right, sometimes questions remain unanswered, probably for the same reasons when not answering a mail on this list, or a tweet, or an IRC message. Change that? Become part of the community and help out. Answer someone's question and feel good. Share the work load with everyone else be it developers, contributors and users. Learn from other problems and improve a bit of Icinga - and your own professional experience. Helping and teaching others solutions you've found out about yourself is the best feeling imho. Where to start? Pick an unanswered question and try to find a solution. No matter how hard it is, or you won't get any direct benefit. Try your best and find a new passion. I did that 6+ years ago when answering questions at monitoring-portal.org about service dependencies. Had no clue, didn't use them, but made a user happy and learned a lot about the tool I use and started to maintain at that time. Looking forward to your and everyone else's contributions to the community :) Kind regards, Michael > Maillist is more informative. > > With the best regards, Vasiliy. > > 17.09.2015, 00:49, "Michael Friedrich" <michael.friedr...@netways.de>: >> Hi, >> >>> Am 16.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Craig White <cwh...@skytouchtechnology.com>: >>> >>> Obviously Michael is the best support resource on this list and he doesn't >>> use LDAP which is apparently why LDAP questions go unanswered. >> >> Each developer or user has his or her specialities, and I personally think >> that my colleagues know way better about Web 2 and LDAP than I ever will. >> Personally I avoid LDAP in my spare time (which is now for example at 11pm), >> but I'm used to it at work, e.g. within LConf. >> >> Generally speaking I do think that there's a topic for anyone out there >> where he/she is best in and will provide answers when there's time (or a >> colleague like me kindly asks them to respond, also happens). >> >>> I asked much of the same 2 times on this list and only heard crickets but >>> I didn't offer any attitude. I certainly understood Jo's frustration but I >>> also recognize that this is essentially a free product. >> >> Frustration being explicitely put into public domain rather than going >> offline and yelling or smashing something is pretty bad. It only helps for 5 >> minutes feeling better but obviously insults or puts stress on anyone >> working on this open source project. >> >> Such behaviour is pretty common amongst oss projects, and it is not the >> first time happening. >> >> I'm just the guy not willing to tolerate such frustration dumps but >> interested in questions and answers and people helping each other. >> Everything else is just bad karma. >> >>> The result was my conclusion that icinga2 was not ready for primetime and >>> I have shutdown the test icinga VM and have been directed to try Zenoss >>> (which is obviously a different beast). >> >> Yet Icinga 2 and Icinga Web 2 are two different projects, but sometimes get >> confused into one project. Icinga 2 is stable over a year now e.g. >> >> Btw - I don't remember you asking at http://www.monitoring-portal.org which >> also is an option to reach out to the community and developers. You will >> certainly recognize many of us there as well. >> >> And if you ask yourself - when do they actually develop Icinga when they are >> demanded to be doing community support at the same time? >> >> That's a really good question... >> >> Kind regards, >> Michael >> >> -- >> Michael Friedrich, DI (FH) >> Senior Developer >> >> NETWAYS GmbH | Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 | D-90429 Nuernberg >> Tel: +49 911 92885-0 | Fax: +49 911 92885-77 >> GF: Julian Hein, Bernd Erk | AG Nuernberg HRB18461 >> http://www.netways.de | michael.friedr...@netways.de >> >> ** OSBConf 2015 - September - osbconf.org ** >> ** OSMC 2015 - November - netways.de/osmc ** >> _______________________________________________ >> icinga-users mailing list >> icinga-users@lists.icinga.org >> https://lists.icinga.org/mailman/listinfo/icinga-users > > ------ > Романеев Василий > Мобильный: +7-987-636-62-67 > skype romaneev > _______________________________________________ > icinga-users mailing list > icinga-users@lists.icinga.org > https://lists.icinga.org/mailman/listinfo/icinga-users -- Michael Friedrich, DI (FH) Senior Developer NETWAYS GmbH | Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 | D-90429 Nuernberg Tel: +49 911 92885-0 | Fax: +49 911 92885-77 GF: Julian Hein, Bernd Erk | AG Nuernberg HRB18461 http://www.netways.de | michael.friedr...@netways.de ** OSBConf 2015 - September - osbconf.org ** ** OSMC 2015 - November - netways.de/osmc ** _______________________________________________ icinga-users mailing list icinga-users@lists.icinga.org https://lists.icinga.org/mailman/listinfo/icinga-users
