Am 21.12.2016 um 14:03 schrieb Rich Freeman: > I don't agree that you are "forced" > to use systemd. Maybe you might be forced to use a different browser > or fork your browser or patch it or stick with an old version and > backport security fixes if you want to use it without systemd some > day.
And there it is again this silly argument and this twisting of words. Typical for those Poettering fanboys. > But, if the entire Firefox developer community quit and decided > to do something else (a la Thunderbird) you'd be in a similar boat. > Sometimes you get what you pay for. And this again. You know the difference between OpenSource and ClosedSource? You pay for ClosedSource. For OpenSource you don't need to pay. But I have neither time nor energy to explain you the philosophy (before Poetterix) of OpenSource. But I can tell you this much. OpenSource and its developers usually have no commercial intentions. It seems to be different for Poettering and his fanboys. > I get that people who want to avoid systemd are frustrated by this, > but honestly it feels like spitting against the wind at this point. And the arrogance and ignorance of Poettering's and his fanboys' again. > I > was frustrated back when everybody stopped taking care of kde-3.5 and > kde-4 wasn't really ready and was a resource hog on older systems. I > switched to xfce for a while, because ultimately I can't demand that > the kde project cater to my whims. Just compare apples and oranges. Also typical for Poettering and his fanboys. The situation with KDE has nothing - and I mean nothing - to do with the situation with systemd. But I have neither time nor energy to explain that, too. I would talk to a wall anyway. > In general though, nobody is required to engage in > debates/arguments/etc here, or even read your posts. People choose to > participate in list discussions just as they choose what software they > want to maintain. There they are again: The apples and the oranges. Heiko Baums