On 12/20/2016 9:33 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote:
>> systemd is primarily a political project, not a technical one.

> What political benefit do I gain from using and maintaining systemd?

Interesting that you snipped the rest of his comment - or more his main
point - that followed.

How about commenting on the most important point he made:

On 12/20/2016 5:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote:
> ... [systemd's] object is clearly to turn GNU/Linux into a tightly
> bound vertical stack where only Red Hat's views on what is good will
> prevail. Our freedom to chose which core packages to run is being
> steadily encroached upon, and pretty soon we will have no choice at
> all.
> 
> Already, as discussed in this thread, pulseaudio has become a hard 
> dependency of Firefox on G/L, and pulseaudio is controlled by the 
> politicians. The next step will be to make systemd a hard dependency 
> of pulseaudio (it will happen, just as it happened for udev and
> gnome), at which point the "happy" people running openrc will not be
> able to run Firefox. Happy indeed.

This, to me, is the single most important problem with systemd, but I'm
not sure that enough people who are in a position to be able to do
anything about it care about or are really fully aware of it.

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