On 12/20/2016 9:33 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: >> systemd is primarily a political project, not a technical one.
> What political benefit do I gain from using and maintaining systemd? Interesting that you snipped the rest of his comment - or more his main point - that followed. How about commenting on the most important point he made: On 12/20/2016 5:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: > ... [systemd's] object is clearly to turn GNU/Linux into a tightly > bound vertical stack where only Red Hat's views on what is good will > prevail. Our freedom to chose which core packages to run is being > steadily encroached upon, and pretty soon we will have no choice at > all. > > Already, as discussed in this thread, pulseaudio has become a hard > dependency of Firefox on G/L, and pulseaudio is controlled by the > politicians. The next step will be to make systemd a hard dependency > of pulseaudio (it will happen, just as it happened for udev and > gnome), at which point the "happy" people running openrc will not be > able to run Firefox. Happy indeed. This, to me, is the single most important problem with systemd, but I'm not sure that enough people who are in a position to be able to do anything about it care about or are really fully aware of it.