Thank you Kevin, Aysh, and PJ!

It sounds like I should focus on getting CLAs first? I assumed with BSD-3 I
wouldn't need them... Is there a guide somewhere for that? E.g. what
language to use? What doesn't require a CLA? What happens if I can't get a
hold of someone?  etc.

Regarding two committees versus one. I was thinking of two separate
committees since the projects could go in different directions; though
there is benefit from having them close to each other.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,

Stefan

On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 10:00 PM Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HI Stefan,
>
> I can even volunteer as a mentor for the projects during Incubation.
>
> -Ayush
>
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 02:18, Kevin Ratnasekera <djkevi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > These projects look interesting. I am interested in voluteering as a
> mentor
> > incubator process.
> >
> > Regards
> > Kevin
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 2:04 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stefan,
> > >
> > > It looks like both projects (Hamilton and Burr) are in a healthy state.
> > >
> > > I can act as a mentor and help with championing if that suits.
> > >
> > > One item to decide on is if you want to create 2 separate podling
> > > committees or if you want to create 1 committee that manages 2
> > > separate source repositories with independent releases.
> > >
> > > You would also need to get the existing code owners to agree to the
> > > license change from BSD to Apache licensed. If the existing
> > > contributors have signed CLAs giving DAGWorks ownership that would
> > > make it easier. Otherwise, we will need to track down the historic
> > > contributors to ask them to agree to the license change.
> > >
> > > After that, we will need to put together one or two proposal documents.
> > >
> > > Example:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OzHeraProposal
> > >
> > > I would prefer to be hands off on doing this sort of effort but can
> > > help with reviewing the work. I think it is important that podling
> > > committees can look after their own administrative tasks.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > PJ
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 at 20:58, Stefan Krawczyk <
> stefan.krawc...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year - just bumping this thread!
> > > >
> > > > Would love any and all feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Stefan
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 1:14 PM Stefan Krawczyk <
> > > stefan.krawc...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this email finds you well. My name is Stefan Krawczyk
> > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/skrawczyk>, and I am reaching out to
> > > > > introduce two projects Hamilton <
> > > https://github.com/dagworks-inc/hamilton>,
> > > > > & Burr <https://github.com/dagworks-inc/burr>, that I would like
> to
> > > > > consider for the ASF incubator program. Currently, we are looking
> for a
> > > > > Champion (or two?) to guide us through the incubation process and
> to
> > > help
> > > > > generate interest and engagement from the ASF community. We are
> eager
> > > to
> > > > > learn from the ASF's vast expertise and to ensure the project
> adheres
> > > to
> > > > > ASF's best practices. Details on the projects below.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hamilton is a lightweight *python DAG* orchestration framework
> (think
> > > > > pipelines) that comes with a self-hostable observability UI. People
> > > use it
> > > > > to wrangle pyspark code, through to pandas, and even LLM calls
> within
> > > > > web-services,  Note: Hamilton is not an alternative to Airflow,
> infact
> > > > > people use Hamilton within their Airflow tasks.
> > > > >
> > > > >    - GitHub repository <https://github.com/dagworks-inc/hamilton>
> > > (1.9K
> > > > >    stars, 500K+ downloads, 400+ community - users from banks to
> > > start-ups)
> > > > >    - Documentation <http://hamilton.dagworks.io/en/latest/>, or
> > > > >    https://www.tryhamilton.dev/
> > > > >    - Blog <https://blog.dagworks.io/> for longer content
> > > > >
> > > > > Burr is a lightweight *python graph* orchestration framework (an
> > > > > alternative to langgraph if you've heard of that) with a
> self-hostable
> > > > > observability UI. Its primary focus is to help one structure a
> state
> > > > > machine as a series of actions and manage state -- which is very
> > > topical at
> > > > > the moment with how one might design "agents".
> > > > >
> > > > >    - GitHub repository <https://github.com/dagworks-inc/burr>
> (1.4K
> > > > >    stars, 500K+ downloads, 100+ community)
> > > > >    - Documentation <https://burr.dagworks.io/>
> > > > >    - Blog <https://blog.dagworks.io> for longer content
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe both projects align with the Apache Foundation’s
> commitment
> > > to
> > > > > fostering innovative, community-driven open-source projects and I
> > > believe
> > > > > it is important that with this new wave of GenAI tooling that
> there are
> > > > > healthy vendor neutral alternatives. Hamilton & Burr can become
> just as
> > > > > successful as Airflow with the right support.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you or someone in your network might be interested in
> championing,
> > > > > mentoring, or collaborating with us, we would be delighted to
> discuss
> > > the
> > > > > project further.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for considering this opportunity to help Hamilton and/or
> Burr
> > > > > thrive within the ASF ecosystem. I look forward to any advice,
> > > interest, or
> > > > > questions from the community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warm regards & Happy Holidays!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Stefan Krawczyk
> > > > > CEO & Co-Founder DAGWorks Inc. <https://www.dagworks.io/> (sent
> from
> > > > > personal)
> > > > >
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