On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: > On Oct 13, 2012 2:59 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote: >> That the Incubator's release process would grind to a halt without >> "freelance" IPMC votes exposes a systemic flaw. > > Also agreed. I think Jukka's release taskforce idea is a good way to > address this.
Unfortunately, the "release task force" proposal relies heavily on freelancing IPMC members: http://markmail.org/message/puoeu6yjtxxnqb3w In concrete terms I'd like the task force to 1) be the first port of call for podlings who're failing to get enough +1s from their mentors I don't see how you reconcile that with your disapproval of freelance votes. The systemic flaw of the Incubator is that for the duration of incubation, podlings are governed not by their contributors, but by IPMC members who are comparatively less invested in the project, scarce, and subject to attrition. The "task force" approach is unsustainable because freelance release reviewing is hard and because duty to the Incubator is a weaker motivator than loyalty to a specific podling. I'm tired of reading plaintive messages from podling RMs begging for IPMC votes a week after the VOTE thread should have closed. This is our problem, not theirs. The least we can do is start sending the reminders ourselves. Marvin Humphrey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org