I dont disapprove of what you call "freelance votes". I disapprove of votes not backed by proper review efforts.
Other than that I agree with all you say. Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors On Oct 15, 2012 3:43 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ross Gardler > <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2012 2:59 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> > wrote: > >> That the Incubator's release process would grind to a halt without > >> "freelance" IPMC votes exposes a systemic flaw. > > > > Also agreed. I think Jukka's release taskforce idea is a good way to > > address this. > > Unfortunately, the "release task force" proposal relies heavily on > freelancing > IPMC members: > > http://markmail.org/message/puoeu6yjtxxnqb3w > > In concrete terms I'd like the task force to 1) be the first port of > call > for podlings who're failing to get enough +1s from their mentors > > I don't see how you reconcile that with your disapproval of freelance > votes. > > The systemic flaw of the Incubator is that for the duration of incubation, > podlings are governed not by their contributors, but by IPMC members who > are > comparatively less invested in the project, scarce, and subject to > attrition. > > The "task force" approach is unsustainable because freelance release > reviewing > is hard and because duty to the Incubator is a weaker motivator than > loyalty > to a specific podling. > > I'm tired of reading plaintive messages from podling RMs begging for IPMC > votes a week after the VOTE thread should have closed. This is our > problem, > not theirs. The least we can do is start sending the reminders ourselves. > > Marvin Humphrey > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
