----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM > Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was: > Small but otherwise happy podlings)] > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > wrote: >> It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of >> a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let >> me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put >> in the position of judging whether or not a podling is actually >> making progress or not. If mentors don't do that, who does? >> The chair? A super-committee? Nobody? > > Last time I looked, the board charge the IPMC with this duty, not Mentors
Last time I looked, mentors were delegated this duty by the IPMC. If not, let's go ahead and do that just to add clarity. > >> While I certainly don't expect you as a mentor to "fix all that >> is broken in the Incubator" single-handedly, I do expect you >> to care enough to try and "fix all that is broken" in your > podling. >> It shouldn't take a board member's opinion for you to critically >> review the reports of your podling and provide them with your own >> feedback on how they are doing. That IMO is what you signed up >> to do as mentor. > > I have no legal training. I'm not CEO of Oracle. I don't have the > US$100B that would be required to buy Oracle. I now have limited > computer access time. I am now incapable of driving public campaigns > to influence corporate behaviour. > > I admit that there are some things that I can fix. The JCP is just one of > them. There's always the realistic and humble approach of changing the things you can change instead of idly waiting for events beyond your control to transpire. > >> Why do we need these obscure notions to characterize a failed incubation >> effort? Can't we be adults and say it simply didn't work out, no >> harm no foul, best of luck in your future endeavors elsewhere? >> I sure hope we aren't going to get into the business of promising >> zombie projects a perpetual home in the incubator. > > Kato is stalled by external events over which the contributors and > Mentors have no control. Mark and freeze would at least inform anyone > who wants to terminate the podling to do so. > > Robert > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
