On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:



Craig L Russell wrote:
On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:


Does it need to?  only if people want it.  JPOX is the RI, and I always feel that a truly competitive impl of a spec isn't going to be the RI. You don't want to do real extension and surrounding innovation in an RI,  I figure...
I don't necessarily agree with either point. JPOX has gained a lot of credibility and good press by being the RI, and it will continue to innovate in the product space as well.

I'm not at all in any way attacking or disrespecting JPOX.  I just tend to keep a clear distinction between RI and indep impls.

I was commenting on " a truly competitive impl of a spec isn't going to be the RI", which I agree with in most cases but not necessarily all.

The Sun-branded Java EE server is also the RI and has been for the last three releases starting with J2EE 1.3.
Of course, for some, I've proved your point. ;-)

Yes, I think you did exactly.  And it was my understanding that the Sun-branded server isn't quite the RI?  That product development also goes on top of the RI to make the products?

The only difference between the RI and Sun's entry-level enterprise (oxymoron?) product offering is the branding/installation. Sun has additional products that add functionality to the RI like clustering and failover.

Craig

geir

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