Jeff, There is more than just Tapestry in incubator.
- Paul --- Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feh. > > Incubation was a dumb idea from the start. It is busy failing in > practice. > > PMCs should manage the acceptance of new subprojects, not some > disinterested Incubator PMC. > > IMHO, scrap this failed experiment and let Tapestry migrate to Jakarta > without being further jerked around. > > I feel I'm stating the blindingly obvious. Is it just me? > > > --Jeff > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:58:22PM -0500, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > > How, exactly, is Tapestry ever expected to exit the proposal stage? > > > > Despite repeated attempts, Tapestry is NOT in BugZilla. We're still forced > > to use SourceForge for bug tracking. > > > > Tapestry's mailing lists are not getting archived any more (not since 2/21). > > > > Nobody seems to know ANY of the procedures for getting things done. Nothing > > is documented. Simple things like the correct way to distribute a release > > (including signing and mirroring) are just "known" by the right people ... > > and I don't even know who is in the know. > > > > Andrew and Dion have been helpful, both before the move and after. > > > > The only other accomplishment of the incubation process has been a code > > audit that resulted in a shuffling of the libraries checked into CVS and > > distributed with the framework. > > > > Jakarta infrastructure is non-existent. Worse, the Jakarta culture > > erroneously expects things to get done based on e-mails, rather than > > something organized, like using BugZilla to track infrastructure requests. > > > > The Incubator team has yet to provide a time table or a check list to > > indicate what the exit criteria are. In terms of Tapestry's commitments to > > the Incubator, it looks like we're more than there (based on > > http://incubator.apache.org/process.html). In terms of Incubator's > > commitments to Tapestry ... that is, to assist Tapestry in moving into > > Jakarta, fitting in, and accessing infrastructure; very little has been > > accomplished. > > > > -- > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components > > http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
