I note that archive.org is doing a great job of rescuing broken links
nowadays with wikipedia, and it's anybody's guess how long ibm will
last.

But perhaps just starting with an archive.org link would prove a good
long term solution for the ietf?

https://web.archive.org/web/20151003174154/http://www2.rdrop.com/~paulmck/scalability/paper/sfq.2002.06.04.pdf

Dave Täht
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Elwyn Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'd suggest referencing it as a technical report (since that is how Paul
> records it on his website) and provide the URL.  In the longer term, it
> could be considered problematic because there is no guarantee what the
> chances are of this web site remaining accessible for the foreseeable
> future.  One solution would be to reference both and maybe ask Paul if he
> could get it pubished in IBM's technical reports archive (I would have
> thought he might have been able to swing this given his position!).  If this
> is done by the time the draft gets to AUTH48, the ref can be updated.
>
> For authoritative ruling on this consult the RFC Editor.
>
> Cheers,
> Elwyn
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Dave Taht <[email protected]>
> Date: 14/03/2016 21:49 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Elwyn Davies <[email protected]>
> Cc: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <[email protected]>, General area reviewing team
> <[email protected]>, [email protected], Brian E Carpenter
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Gen-art LC review of draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-05
>
> There are presently some issues in the html version with the "s
>
> And I vastly preferred that we linked to to public, and much longer
> version fo Paul's paper on SFQ, rather than the short one behind the
> IEEE paywall, as is now here:
>
> s ] McKenney, P., "Stochastic fairness queueing", in Proceedings. IEEE
> INFOCOM ’90, DOI http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/INFCOM.1990.91316, 1990.
>
> http://www2.rdrop.com/~paulmck/scalability/paper/sfq.2002.06.04.pdf
>
> How do we go about citing that rather than the infocom one?
>
>
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Elwyn Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi, Toke.
>>
>> I had a look through the updated draft and I think it addresses all the
>> issues and editorials that i identified in my LC review.  Adding the
>> comments on the state diagram is probably OK.  I won't push the idea of
>> capitalising quantum etc. any further.
>>
>> In the light of Brian C's note and his exchange with Dave about labels, I
>> think Dave might add a few words about using the label as a classification
>> mechanism.
>>
>> I don't know if you have had any other comments - check with Martin
>> whether
>> he wants you to publish the updated version before the end of last call
>> since it is the day of the IESG meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elwyn
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <[email protected]>
>> Date: 13/03/2016 12:19 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: Elwyn Davies <[email protected]>
>> Cc: General area reviewing team <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Gen-art LC review of draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-05
>>
>> Hi Elwyn
>>
>> I have now been through your comments and produced an updated version of
>> the draft. It is available from here:
>> https://kau.toke.dk/ietf/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-06.html (or .txt if you
>> prefer).
>>
>> Most of your comments I have just incorporated (variants of), with a
>> single stylistic exception as noted below. I *think* I managed to cover
>> everything, but I did this in two sittings, so something may have
>> slipped through the cracks, I suppose. Let me know if that is the case.
>>
>> I believe Dave has replied to most of your other comments, so I won't go
>> through them again unless you point out something I missed. For the full
>> diff (of the source document), see here:
>>
>> https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs/commit/0d7f1963cc27d11129bcb5fe2affb90ebc6e67d3
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Toke
>>
>>
>> Elwyn Davies <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> General: It would be helpful to capitalize Quantum throughout (or at
>>> least from s3 onwards) to emphasise that it is a configured value.
>>> Likewise Interval and Target parameters. Maybe also Flow and Queue as
>>> they a defined terms.
>>
>> I think this is the only stylistic change I haven't made. I thought it
>> made it more difficult to read, not less.

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