Actually in terms of the sort of prophet that mainstream developers want, I don't think there are enough blind people to matter, even if everyond di! buy the game.

These people talk in the millions, or at least in the hundreds of thousands, not in the hundreds or at most a couple of thousands that could be had from the accessible games community.

On the other hand, indi developers would! recognize the advantage, and also tend to be much more easy to contact given that all the developers for mainstream games are hidden in bunkers somehwere and impossible to talk to, that when games aren't designed by board room committees anyway.

So, mainstream no, I don't think it'll happen, but good indi games? most definitely, indeed it already has, and we're likely to see more in the future.

All the best,

Dark.
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No, actually, there is not a way to make current mainstream games
accessible, unless, of course, they already have accessibility
features built in.

It does not help us (blind folks), but all of Relic Entertainment's
games provide subtitles for all spoken dialogue in their games,
starting with Company of Heroes and onward.

If we want accessible games, we are going to have to find a way to
convince a mainstream developer, i.e. any company that develops
mainstream games, to take a crack at creating something for us. But,
and here is the thing, it has to be presented in such a way that they
will be able to make a profit, i.e. we (the blind community) have to
be willing to pay for it and not complain how it is not free to play.

On 10/25/16, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steam pisses me off majorly. The xbox one and ps4 are both accessible.
So if they was away for narator to pull the text from games we would
be golden. I still love my consoles even though you can get a lot of
the same games for computers. My comp only has 6 gb of ram and
probably not the best graphics card anyways. All I have ever really
wanted is for main stream games to be accessible and I am sure there
is away to do this.

On 10/25/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Sadly "just having the sounds turned into pictures"  is easier said than
done, likewise I doubt game stop (which I assume is rather like game
station

is over here in the Uk), would stock independently produced games.

If there was an audiogames console, the plane fact is only blind people
would buy it and it's doubtful anyone would develop games with graphics
for

it. Plus, to be brutally honest, why should I pay for additional hardware
when I already have a computer and an Iphone that can play games no
problem?
When a sighted person buys a games consoles, there are lots of games that
won't! be available on their pc, or mac or whatever, however as a blind
person that is not the case, and I don't think you could find a dedicated
list of developers willing to write games for a new platform when they
could

already develop games for Windows pc, Ios, or even Mac or Android and
know
they'd have a dedicated pool of users who already have the hardware and
inclination to buy their games without laying out additional costs.

Developing audiogames for actual graphical consoles like the playstation
or

xbox might be a possibility, though even there you have the problem of
firstly how a blind person accesses the text in the game with no
software
or os based synthesisers (I have heard importing of things like sapi onto
Xbox and ps4 has been tried but I'm not sure how it went), also
manifestly
you have the problem that only some blind users will have consoles, and
of
the potential sighted users of games consoles it's uncertain how many
would

buy an audiogame anyway making development of it worth while.

Game consoles come from a time when most people didn't own computers,
and
when the dedicated processing power  and potentials of the hardware was
far

more than a similar computer system. That however is fading these days no
longer the case, most people already own a computer or smart phone and
can
play games on it, indeed I've heard steam (irritating as it is for their
lack of access), called the next step in consoles, ie, a virtual os that
doesn't come with any hardware at all but runs on the user's own existing
devices.


So bottom line, I don't really think a console for the blind would work
at
all, at most it'd mean laying out  extra expense for a few users and for
developers to write for a platform with potentially even less users than
normal, and it's even less likely that such a console would be picked up
by

sighted people.

Better focus on platforms everyone! has access too than try to create
another, heck look at the interest by sighted players in games like
pappasangre on the Iphone.

all the best,

Dark.


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