Since we're talking about Sabine and anastomosis, I found this video 
interesting"

This Theory of Everything Could Actually Work: Wolfram’s Hypergraphs
https://youtu.be/-yzdjziS-bo?si=w5av9XcTUqjodJ5V

"The idea that the laws of physics are a sort of computation has a rather basic 
problem. It's incompatible with Einstein's theories of general relativity and it's not a 
small mismatch. You see, any type of computation works in steps. If it doesn't, then 
calling it a computation is really just a weird way of talking about the laws of physics 
that we already use. A computation has some sort of update rule. [snip] The problem with 
this idea isn't just that Einstein's theories don't use graphs. But that we know you 
can't use graphs to even properly approximate them. The gaps in the graphs and the 
updates in time steps can't be hidden away. They will always be observable. And we 
haven't observed them. [snip] As a consequences, you can't approximate general relativity 
with a graph while respecting all its symmetries."

She then mentions her paper: A No-go theorem for Poincaré-invariant networks 
<https://arxiv.org/abs/1504.06070>, which I'm incompetent to read. She 
continues:

"The new Wolfram approach uses what they call 'hypergraphs'. Instead of just using 
graphs to describe space-time and particles in them, they collect these graphs into 
groups. So the hypergraph is really a collection of graphs. The points in this graph 
describe space-time and can also describe matter in the space-time, depending on their 
properties. But the lengths in the hypergraph are not physical. They have no length. They 
just quantify the relations between the points. And since they have no length, there's no 
problem with them becoming shorter or longer for different observers. It's actually a 
clever idea. I had an exchange with the guy who works for Wolfram Research who did most 
of this work, I think, Jonathan Gorard, in 2020. I came to the conclusion that this is 
indeed possible. But it's been done before. This is exactly the idea an approach called 
'Causal Sets' put forward by Rafael Sorkin. As the name suggests, in this approach 
space-time is a set of points, like the points in the hypergraph. And these points have 
causal relations, which you can depict with arrows. So that gives you a graph. And this 
will, indeed, respect Einstein's theory. If you look at what they've [Gorard et al] been 
doing after that announcement in 2020, they've worked more on the relation between 
Wolfram's hypergraph and causal sets. Most of this work has been done, it seems, by 
Jonathan Gorard. He has also looked at how to use that to do general relativity and how 
it prevents singularities, which the causal sets people never figured out how to do. 
[snip] However, the causal sets people already showed that it's possible to put 
discretized versions of differential equations on these graphs. So maybe it isn't as 
difficult as it sounds. So when I look at this today, I honestly think this research 
program is going very well. And I think it's about time that physicists pay a little more 
attention to it."

[Gorard et al] 
https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=ItG_Nz0AAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate


On 10/30/24 17:21, Stephen Guerin wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:32 PM glen <geprope...@gmail.com 
<mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The idealists will never stop idealizing and then reifying their ideal. To 
Engineer is Human. But those of us who know (or merely confidently believe) 
reality is made up of a diverse non-wellfounded set of ... what? ... urges? ... 
nano-agents? ... IDK, whatever, will always anastomose that built environment 
... or at least reclaim it like a hermit crab squatting in a tin can.


  I like the visual and deeper concept, Glen. A kind of wuwei attitude.

sequeing impermanence of political structures to over-reified software:

Today at lunch, John Zingale lamented that the residence time of code in the 
system seems to be decreasing. Perhaps Anastomotic Computing is the next big 
thing.  :-)


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