Yes. The model need not be structurally analogous to the referent. And the proof is 
in the pudding. If your estimator works better than those around you, as Eric seems 
to say, your cup's plenty full. But for me, there's a kind of frustration. I have 
friends who skillfully use filter bubbles. They may still, sporadically, have to 
interact in some relatively deep way with some outsider who doesn't have access to 
the lessons a failed prediction can teach. And they have coping mechanisms for those 
interactions (e.g. a Peter Principle boss or co-author). For some reason, I don't 
have the facility with the filter bubble. Or maybe I'm addicted to chaos 
<https://youtu.be/ntrMqThnzTU?si=pzlZj0OFd_rDjnf1>.

But there's still something there. Art like The Curse 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_(American_TV_series)> seem like genius to me. They're 
little more than a derivation from things like Jackass 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)>. But these things dig at something deep. 
Some of us, for whatever reason, experience empathy (which I'll define as "experiencing 
another's feelings", where feelings are higher order emotions). This trait seems distinct from 
mentalizing (modeling another's mind).

I'm pretty good at mentalizing, say, a Trump supporter. I don't have empathy 
for the Trump supporters I've met, though. And that seems important. It 
suggests to me that my estimator *could* be more accurate and efficient if I 
could somehow feel what they feel, especially if I could turn it on and off at 
will.

On 10/16/24 11:53, Marcus Daniels wrote:
I take the asocial view:  Reliable, rapidly retargetable prediction methods are 
all that matter.   Can one anticipate what will happen in the world and get 
ahead of it?

With that capability, there is no need to use truth as a cudgel.    The power 
the prediction methods provide are a deeper source of power.   Sure, the truths 
can be high order stabilities.  Who cares?



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