Nick -
And here I thought *I* was being "pithy", then you call me out on
my lithp?! ;^)
The strawman arguments have started coming out, I wonder if anyone
will gen up a steelman?
- tinman Steve
On 10/5/24 11:26 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
So in what sense and for what purposes is this pithy aphorism useful?
What exactly is the pith?
If a metaphor, what is truth in the metaphor, the positive analog.
Nobody ever said that all metaphors are /entirely/ wrong.
and yes, I am being pissy.
n
On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 11:04 AM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
All /Pithy Aphorisms/ are wrong, some are useful?
On 10/5/24 9:06 AM, Prof David West wrote:
my affection for the quote derives from a metaphorical reading,
not a literal one. Something akin to Steve's differential rates
of evolution. I also would have eschewed 'god like' in favor of
'magical' ala Clarke's dictum about any sufficiently advanced
technology.
davew
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 8:46 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
I think that this way of talking about emotions precludes
careful thought. First of all, neurologizing emotions is just
to hide the pea under the wrong thimble. I don't think
paleolithologizig helps much more. Glen is correct that,
whatever an emotion is, its inputs and outputs are
ontogenetically and culturally determined. So, fear, for
instance, is a relation between something that we take to be
threatening and something that we hope will be avoidance. Inputs
and outputs are everything. The rest is just arousal.
N
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 7:01 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
Emotions/Limbic systems evolve at genetic rates,
institutions evolve at
social/cultural rates (maybe the fastest significant change can
happen/resolve is in multiple lifetimes?) but technology is
advancing at
must faster rates?
Or is this wrong(headed) also?
On 10/4/24 3:43 PM, glen wrote:
> None of that is true, however romantic it might sound.
Depending on
> how one defines "emotion", that smells the most true. But the
> mechanisms of emotion are as coupled to current reality as
is every
> part of our bodies. To suggest that, say, the Space Force
or methods
> like quantitative easing are medieval is just nonsense.
Technology is
> more democratized than it has ever been. Granted, it takes
(a lot) of
> work to familiarize oneself with something like how GPS
works or how
> to NOT click on that phishing email. But to suggest that it's
> "godlike" says more about the person than it does about
the state of
> technology.
>
> On 10/4/24 11:16, Prof David West wrote:
>> /"The real problem of humanity is the following: we have
Paleolithic
>> emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology.
And it is
>> terrifically dangerous."/ Edward O. Wilson.
>>
>
>
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