All /Pithy Aphorisms/ are wrong, some are useful?

On 10/5/24 9:06 AM, Prof David West wrote:
my affection for the quote derives from a metaphorical reading, not a literal one. Something akin to Steve's differential rates of evolution. I also would have eschewed 'god like' in favor of 'magical' ala Clarke's dictum about any sufficiently advanced technology.

davew


On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 8:46 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
I think that this way of talking about emotions precludes careful thought.   First of all, neurologizing emotions is just to hide the pea under the wrong thimble. I don't think paleolithologizig helps much more. Glen is correct that, whatever an emotion is, its inputs  and outputs are ontogenetically and culturally determined.  So, fear, for instance, is a relation between something that we take to be threatening and something that we hope will be avoidance. Inputs and outputs are everything. The rest is  just arousal.

N

On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 7:01 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:

    Emotions/Limbic systems evolve at genetic rates, institutions
    evolve at
    social/cultural rates (maybe the fastest significant change can
    happen/resolve is in multiple lifetimes?) but technology is
    advancing at
    must faster rates?

    Or is this wrong(headed) also?

    On 10/4/24 3:43 PM, glen wrote:
    > None of that is true, however romantic it might sound.
    Depending on
    > how one defines "emotion", that smells the most true. But the
    > mechanisms of emotion are as coupled to current reality as is
    every
    > part of our bodies. To suggest that, say, the Space Force or
    methods
    > like quantitative easing are medieval is just nonsense.
    Technology is
    > more democratized than it has ever been. Granted, it takes (a
    lot) of
    > work to familiarize oneself with something like how GPS works
    or how
    > to NOT click on that phishing email. But to suggest that it's
    > "godlike" says more about the person than it does about the
    state of
    > technology.
    >
    > On 10/4/24 11:16, Prof David West wrote:
    >> /"The real problem of humanity is the following: we have
    Paleolithic
    >> emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. And
    it is
    >> terrifically dangerous."/ Edward O. Wilson.
    >>
    >
    >

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