I think that this way of talking about emotions precludes careful thought. First of all, neurologizing emotions is just to hide the pea under the wrong thimble. I don't think paleolithologizig helps much more. Glen is correct that, whatever an emotion is, its inputs and outputs are ontogenetically and culturally determined. So, fear, for instance, is a relation between something that we take to be threatening and something that we hope will be avoidance. Inputs and outputs are everything. The rest is just arousal.
N On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 7:01 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: > Emotions/Limbic systems evolve at genetic rates, institutions evolve at > social/cultural rates (maybe the fastest significant change can > happen/resolve is in multiple lifetimes?) but technology is advancing at > must faster rates? > > Or is this wrong(headed) also? > > On 10/4/24 3:43 PM, glen wrote: > > None of that is true, however romantic it might sound. Depending on > > how one defines "emotion", that smells the most true. But the > > mechanisms of emotion are as coupled to current reality as is every > > part of our bodies. To suggest that, say, the Space Force or methods > > like quantitative easing are medieval is just nonsense. Technology is > > more democratized than it has ever been. Granted, it takes (a lot) of > > work to familiarize oneself with something like how GPS works or how > > to NOT click on that phishing email. But to suggest that it's > > "godlike" says more about the person than it does about the state of > > technology. > > > > On 10/4/24 11:16, Prof David West wrote: > >> /"The real problem of humanity is the following: we have Paleolithic > >> emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology. And it is > >> terrifically dangerous."/ Edward O. Wilson. > >> > > > > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > -- Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University nthomp...@clarku.edu https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson
-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
