Whether tensors represent individuals influence on one another across different 
properties, or just the relationships between properties, I think it is all 
evolving.   The Republicans go from a fiscally and socially conservative 
organization to an organization concerned more with nativism and fascism.    
The operator seems less constrained than computing spatial frames for an object 
with a fixed shape?

From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerin
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:06 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] quotes and questions

On Thu, May 12, 2022, 8:54 PM Marcus Daniels 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Unitary operators are needed.  Apply a Trumping operator you get a Biden and 
apply another one to get a Trump back.

As we project our political views onto the other, the unitary operator in this 
projective geometry might be the fundamental-ist matrix ;-)

see:
sing-along to the Fundamental Matrix in Computer Vision
https://youtu.be/DgGV3l82NTk in computer vision

or
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_matrix_(linear_differential_equation)
PS, this send me down a rabbit hole surf on  Political Dualism, Power and 
Action this Sunday morning.


On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:54 PM Marcus Daniels 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Unitary operators are needed.  Apply a Trumping operator you get a Biden and 
apply another one to get a Trump back.    To make this work a bunch of 
ancillary bits are needed to record all the wisdom that Trump destroys.    I am 
afraid we are dealing with a dissipative system, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of glen
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:55 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] quotes and questions

I've always wondered why we obsessively dichotomize. I've tried to express my 
confusion in the context of the law of noncontradiction and excluded middle 
since my 1st (authentic) analysis course in college. I'd caught a whiff of 
intuitionism by that time and asked my prof about it. He wisely feigned 
ignorance and suggested I do my homework.

When Dave asks a question like "What is the negation of evolution?", it 
absolutely *begs* us to avoid negation  ... this silly impulse to think in 
dichotomies. Negation is a stupid concept, perhaps the most Evil human 
invention ... maybe 2nd only to religion. And juxtaposed with evolution, which 
relies heavily on high-dimensional contexts, makes it crystal clear how stupid 
a concept negation actually is.

Now, "opposition" carries much more ambiguity. One could think of it (and 
"reaction") in something like Newton's 3rd law. But the ambiguity also allows 
us to think in terms of a bushy opposition or "response", rather than negation 
or reaction. So kudos to the quotees who used the more ambiguous term, helping 
us think a little more broadly. And woe to those who read the ambiguous term 
and preemptively register it as the miniscule-minded concept of negation.

That bushy opposition flows nicely into Dave's invocation of "stress". In the 
past, I've expressed affinity with the (ole timey) Cynics who flout 
contemporary norms and attempt for Flow. But if I'm honest, I'm actually 
anti-Flow ... or maybe it's a kind of processor-sliced-multi-Flow. The only 
time I feel authentic is when I'm surfing a stressful context ... like some 
adrenaline junky hopping from one brief high to another. Comfort, Groove, Flow, 
Eudaimonia, are most accurately mapped to something like laminar death. 
Turbulence is the new groovy. Flow is for squares, man.

On 5/10/22 21:06, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Wokeness or antifa are two reactions to bad faith.  At some point 
> communication is no longer occurring and it is delusional to expect a civil 
> dialog.   When that happens it is just a matter of whether to keep taking a 
> beating in the name of a principle that the other party does not care about 
> (who IS the audience for this demonstration of futility?) or to use other 
> means that they cannot ignore.
>
> Another way to deal with Trump-like people on social media would be to scale 
> the the fact checking with the lying, so that liars have an unblockable 
> paragraph of injected correction surrounding each false claim.   
> Unfortunately then the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and that the narcissist 
> gets the attention they seek.  In that sense cancellation is better.
>
>> On May 10, 2022, at 7:42 PM, Prof David West 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Quotes:
>>
>> /"A thing without oppositions ipso facto does not exist ... existence lies 
>> in opposition."/ C.S. Peirce.
>>
>> /"It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep 
>> truth." /Neils Bohr.
>>
>> Questions:
>> What is the negation of evolution? Natural Selection? Survival of the 
>> 'Fittest'?
>>
>> What is the negation of 'bleeding heart liberalism'? Of Trumpism? Of 
>> "wokeness?"
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> /"Examine the lives of the best and most fruitful people and peoples and ask 
>> yourselves whether a tree which is supposed to grow to a proud height could 
>> do so without bad weather and storms; /*[1]* /whether misfortune and 
>> external resistance, whether any kinds of hatred, jealousy, stubbornness, 
>> mistrust, hardness, greed, and violence to not belong to the *_favorable_* 
>> conditions without which any great grown even of virtue is scarecely 
>> possible." F. Nietzsche (emphasis his)/
>>
>> *[1] *The Biosphere 2 project encountered a problem with trees falling over 
>> far before they reached their maturity. It was from lack of wind. Wind and 
>> mechanical stress was required to grow the hard tissues that allowed the 
>> tree to stand.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> To what extent do we (denizens of FRIAM and their local cultures) require 
>> the kinds of stress being encountered in the world?
>>
>> I suspect that there needs to be a balance between realizable civilization 
>> and stresses, but how is that balance defoined and, more importantly, found 
>> and maintained?
>>
>> Concrete example of last question: Will the Twitterites end up being a 
>> better or worse 'culture' post-Musk?
>>
>> davew


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