I certainly agree with Ed. Coding does indeed suggest the final stage for a particular language--should that colon instead be on a semi-colon. I would, though, argue for "algorithmic thinking" rather than "computational thinking".
George Duncan Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University georgeduncanart.com See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram Land: (505) 983-6895 Mobile: (505) 469-4671 My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order and luminous chaos. "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It may then be a valuable delusion." >From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn. "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest power." Joanna Macy. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:53 PM Edward Angel <an...@cs.unm.edu> wrote: > Going back to Dave’s original post, to me a big part of the issue is what > is meant by “coding.” Unfortunately for manys in CS education, coding has > come to refer only to the very last step in a complex process; namely, > converting a final detailed set of instructions into computer code for a > particular computer language. This is especially true of what as happened > in the schools with programs that claim to teach coding and STEM. It’s why > many of us prefer to use the term “computational thinking” when dealing > with CS education. > > If coding is just the final step (which could be replaced by a machine, if > not now but soon) then it would be orthogonal to all these other skills. > > Ed > _______________________ > > Ed Angel > > Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory > (ARTS Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico > > 1017 Sierra Pinon > Santa Fe, NM 87501 > 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > > On Jan 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> > wrote: > > For a while now there has been a huge push to teach kids how to code. > Ostensibly because it enhances skills like language, logic, and math; plus, > "computer literacy" is essential in a world filled with computers. > > A study at MIT suggests that coding skill is orthogonal to reading skill > and has little, if any, influence on development of logic/math skills. > > An article in the Journal of Neuroscience argues that if you want to > increase the "skills and brainpower" of kids you should teach them music. > > I came across this information peripherally and have not read the specific > research reported on. I *want* the reports to be accurate representation > of the research because it confirms long held biases against the value of > "computational thinking" and computer science as a fundamental knowledge > domain. > > dave west > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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