You missed the conditional. "Absent dualism..." what separates getting a machine to do something from getting a human to do something? If you answer is "dualism", then there's no need to talk further. We've been there, done that! n
Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:02 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] coding versus music Because you're free to define *anything* as a kind of communication if you're so inclined. But it's not helpful and smacks of sophistry, if not bad faith rhetoric. Sure, that garage door opener I built from a raspberry pi can be *thought* of as a kind of communication. But really?!? No. It's a garage door opener. On 1/27/21 11:46 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > This is helpful. Still, absent dualism, why isn’t getting a machine > to do what you want a kind of communication. Why privilege the inter-human > kind. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/