Going back to Dave’s original post, to me a big part of the issue is what is 
meant by “coding.” Unfortunately for manys in CS education, coding has come to 
refer only to the very last step in a complex process; namely, converting a 
final detailed set of instructions into computer code for a particular computer 
language. This is especially true of what as happened in the schools with 
programs that claim to teach coding and STEM. It’s why many of us prefer to use 
the term “computational thinking” when dealing with CS education.

If coding is just the final step (which could be replaced by a machine, if not 
now but soon) then it would be orthogonal to all these other skills.

Ed
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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> For a while now there has been a huge push to teach kids how to code. 
> Ostensibly because it enhances skills like language, logic, and math; plus, 
> "computer literacy" is essential in a world filled with computers.
> 
> A study at MIT suggests that coding skill is orthogonal to reading skill and 
> has little, if any, influence on development of logic/math skills.
> 
> An article in the Journal of Neuroscience argues that if you want to increase 
> the "skills and brainpower" of kids you should teach them music.
> 
> I came across this information peripherally and have not read the specific 
> research reported on. I want the reports to be accurate representation of the 
> research because it confirms long held biases against the value of 
> "computational thinking" and computer science as a fundamental knowledge 
> domain.
> 
> dave west
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