The issue in NM and other poor places around the world is not the debate about whether people should or should not have children but what to do about the children who exist. Do we really want to hold the children responsible for the” sins" of their parents? It seems we who have benefited either directly or indirectly from the welfare that has supported the labs in NM should feel some responsibility to help the 75% of children in the SF schools who are on food aid, if for no other reason to break the cycle of poverty.
Ed _______________________ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu <mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu> 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel <http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel> > On Jan 14, 2020, at 11:54 AM, <thompnicks...@gmail.com> > <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Marcus, > > People have kids because they have hopes; people with more fears than hopes, > probably don’t have kids. > > On the other hand, there’s what my father said when, I, at the age of 40, > observed that I appeared to have been … a “caboose”. “Son,” he said, as if > he had been planning what to say for 40 years. “I never planned to have a > child; I never had a child I didn’t love.” > > I suppose you might say that people have kids because … you know…. sex, and > they love kids because they have them. > > Not sure reason has a lot do with it. But if you want to be entirely > rational, the shadow-of-the-future argument dictates that nobody should ever > have children because sometime in the future there will be a generation in > which everybody dies. Are you sure you want to be THAT rational? > > Nick > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of Marcus Daniels > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:09 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com > <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF > City Hall; bring friends > > Ed writes: > > “For those of us concerned with economic development is a state which leads > in childhood poverty, the labs are not an asset, largely because of precisely > the points we agree on.” > > Why people have kids when then have no means to support them continues to > baffle me. > Los Alamos was chosen for Manhattan project because it remote and > inaccessible. > > Marcus > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> by Dr. Strangelove
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