North Korea, Pakistan, potentially Iran, Israel, Russia ... Do you trust them to be as moral as you are?
I had a dream last night about being surrounded by Russians. When I awoke I learned that they were hacking into Burisma. ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 7:43 AM Merle Lefkoff <merlelefk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, George. There's a bigger picture here. I went to CNLS because I > could work with complex systems scientists who were not doing weapons work, > and I had access to post-docs from all over the world (not true any more). > But Lanl is what it is, and it's stupidly but not unexpectedly, building > parts for new nuclear weapons. > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM George Duncan <gtdun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Based on my experience at LANL, Marcus’s assessments are correct. Indeed >> much of LANL activity involves basic science that most of us would find >> quite laudable. And many in its technical staff are our neighbors. >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:33 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >>> < There are many powerful people in Washington who know LANL specializes >>> in taxpayer ripoffs. > >>> >>> I am confident the use of such a property would be for science, >>> administration, and outreach & training functions, not secure national >>> work. It would probably make a lot of LANL employees happy, as many of >>> them live in Santa Fe. Anyway, get real, if it wasn't for all the >>> federal money, cities in New Mexico would collapse, there would be no SFI, >>> etc. >>> >>> Marcus >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff < >>> merlelefk...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 13, 2020 2:41 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Fwd: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside >>> SF City Hall; bring friends >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: *Leslie Lakind* <leftielak...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:23 PM >>> Subject: NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12;00 outside SF City Hall; >>> bring friends >>> To: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: *Greg Mello* <gme...@lasg.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> Permalink <http://www.lasg.org/letters/2020/nm_12Jan2020.html> for this >>> letter. *Please forward! *Other Letters >>> <http://www.lasg.org/letters/letters.html> >>> Home page <http://lasg.org/index.htm>; Press Releases >>> <http://www.lasg.org/press/PressReleases.html>; Bulletins >>> <http://www.lasg.org/ActionAlerts/action.htm>; >>> To subscribe to our Friends listserve (formerly by invitation only) send >>> a blank email here. <lasg_friends-subscr...@lists.riseup.net> To >>> unsubscribe send a blank email here. >>> <lasg_friends-unsubscr...@lists.riseup.net> >>> To subscribe to our Main listserve (less content, less frequent) send a >>> blank email here. <lasg-subscr...@lists.riseup.net> To unsubscribe send >>> a blank email here. <lasg-unsubscr...@lists.riseup.net> >>> Our blog (makeover coming!): *Remember your Humanity >>> <http://lasg.org/wordpress/>. *Twitter: @TrishABQ >>> <https://twitter.com/#%21/TrishABQ>. >>> Contribute. <http://www.lasg.org/contribute.htm> Volunteer. Contact us (Greg >>> and Trish in our main office <http://www.lasg.org/contact.htm>, Lydia >>> Clark in our Santa Fe office <clark4...@msn.com>) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *This letter: * >>> *Press conference outside Santa Fe City Hall at noon on Wednesday Jan. >>> 15 (map <https://goo.gl/maps/ycyfawsEqEYzu3wG9>) -- please come, and please >>> recruit others * >>> >>> >>> >>> *Dear New Mexico friends – * >>> As we have explained in previous letters >>> <http://www.lasg.org/letters/letters.html>, Wednesday is the day on >>> which the City will announce the finalists for "Master Developer" of the >>> former College of Santa Fe site (and possibly surrounding properties as >>> well, a 64- to ~100-acre project). The National Nuclear Security >>> Administration (NNSA) has applied for this role. NNSA and/or Los Alamos >>> National Laboratory (LANL) are present in some (not all) other proposals, >>> as tenant(s). >>> >>> The situation is opaque, fluid, and developing. So far, Mayor Webber has >>> disdainfully rebuffed our requests to meet or discuss the momentous social, >>> cultural, and economic development impacts of placing a nuclear weapons >>> campus in Santa Fe. (Don't be deceived -- that is exactly what LANL is and >>> what this would be.) >>> >>> People power may be the only force stronger than LANL's money and >>> corruption. We really need you to help us expand our numbers. >>> >>> If you live *anywhere* nearby please come to this joint press >>> conference, and please ask as many friends to come as possible. Sheer >>> attendance matters. A strong showing Wednesday will save countless hours of >>> work later, and will give wings to efforts to push back on LANL's entirely >>> unjustified expansion. There are many powerful people in Washington who >>> know LANL specializes in taxpayer ripoffs. Some of them need to see some >>> spine from us out here to take to their bosses. >>> >>> New Mexico is being selected to be a nuclear weapons support and >>> sacrifice area. That now includes the Santa Fe metro area. >>> >>> We may not know know the outcome of this first Midtown Campus decision >>> by noon Wednesday but regardless of that we must seize the day. >>> >>> While it seems absurd that NNSA could be a possible "master developer," >>> we can't be sure that Mayor Webber and the people around him wouldn't want >>> that -- or want, say, a training facility for plutonium workers. We just >>> don't know. >>> >>> This event will also give us a chance for us to network with each other >>> and with representatives of any other groups present, as well as speak to >>> any City officials willing to do so. >>> >>> *Getting people to come on Wednesday is the sole action item we are >>> recommending right now. 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