> On 3 Dec, 2017, at 7:55, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: >>>> On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: >>>>> Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", >>>>> "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has >>>>> done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. >>>> That's one possible explanation. Or, as Occam's Razor suggests, they >>>> continue to try to modernize the Ports Collection, despite obstacles >>>> (including stale codebases and stubborn maintainers). >>>> >>>> I'll admit some of the transitions have been pretty rough. But when >>>> you go back and look at Ports as of e.g. FreeBSD 4, there have been a >>>> lot of good changes -- including some which were necessary due to sheer >>>> scale. >>>> >>>> If we had stayed with what we had then, the whole thing would have >>>> collapsed by now. >>>> >>>> mcl >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> >>> What you have noe is not that great either. When is base going to be >>> packed.....ie something that makes sense and works? >> You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break in >> HEAD sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't have >> breakages, or users who depend on undeveloped tools, stay on the quarterly >> branch. Portmaster works perfectly on quarterly. Always has. >> Everyone understands that poudriere isn't for everybody---Steve Kargl >> outlined a pretty classic example of a workflow and system that aren't >> amenable to poudriere. We've asked repeatedly for people to work on >> portmaster. Far more people complain about it breaking than put in ANY >> effort to fix it. >> HEAD is for development. You have to tolerate breakage on HEAD, and >> participate in fixing things, otherwise you need to switch to the quarterly >> branches. >> # Adam > > I don't use HEAD. I use Quartlery with synth. It is just I expect a little > more than amature hour. I was on Archlinux for 10 years and they are very > bleeding edge. Almost No breakage in ten years. The only reason I left Linux > was systemd. After landing in FreeBSD the experence has been terrible at > best, I have been a user for more than 5 years hoping that things would get > better after seeing all the work promised not getting done. I am done with > FreeBSD and I am going to my own scratch built Linux. I already have all my > raspberry pi on my own linux version and now I am working on moving my > desktops. Should be complete by the end of the year.
If you don't use HEAD, then I fail to see how flavours have wronged you. Synth now supports flavours, and quarterly works exactly as it did a week ago. Either way, a scratch built Linux sounds like a great alternative to FreeBSD, which is terrible at best. # Adam -- Adam Weinberger ad...@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
