On 12/3/2017 11:56 AM, Adam Weinberger wrote:
On 3 Dec, 2017, at 7:55, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote:
On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +0000, Carmel NY wrote:
Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager",
"portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has
done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent.
That's one possible explanation. Or, as Occam's Razor suggests, they
continue to try to modernize the Ports Collection, despite obstacles
(including stale codebases and stubborn maintainers).
I'll admit some of the transitions have been pretty rough. But when
you go back and look at Ports as of e.g. FreeBSD 4, there have been a
lot of good changes -- including some which were necessary due to sheer
scale.
If we had stayed with what we had then, the whole thing would have
collapsed by now.
mcl
_______________________________________________
What you have noe is not that great either. When is base going to be
packed.....ie something that makes sense and works?
You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break in HEAD
sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't have breakages, or
users who depend on undeveloped tools, stay on the quarterly branch. Portmaster
works perfectly on quarterly. Always has.
Everyone understands that poudriere isn't for everybody---Steve Kargl outlined
a pretty classic example of a workflow and system that aren't amenable to
poudriere. We've asked repeatedly for people to work on portmaster. Far more
people complain about it breaking than put in ANY effort to fix it.
HEAD is for development. You have to tolerate breakage on HEAD, and participate
in fixing things, otherwise you need to switch to the quarterly branches.
# Adam
I don't use HEAD. I use Quartlery with synth. It is just I expect a little
more than amature hour. I was on Archlinux for 10 years and they are very
bleeding edge. Almost No breakage in ten years. The only reason I left Linux
was systemd. After landing in FreeBSD the experence has been terrible at best,
I have been a user for more than 5 years hoping that things would get better
after seeing all the work promised not getting done. I am done with FreeBSD and
I am going to my own scratch built Linux. I already have all my raspberry pi
on my own linux version and now I am working on moving my desktops. Should be
complete by the end of the year.
If you don't use HEAD, then I fail to see how flavours have wronged you. Synth
now supports flavours, and quarterly works exactly as it did a week ago.
Either way, a scratch built Linux sounds like a great alternative to FreeBSD,
which is terrible at best.
# Adam
well I can at least count on it to work and with current hardware to boot.
_______________________________________________
freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list
https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
