Also note;
I forgot to mention, I have no real investment in Flex anymore (which
is good) but I really love what the project could become.
I have already implemented a pretty complex program with the new compiler.
There are NO TESTS! for the compiler right now. This means even if I
wanted to fix problems that Adobe has in their compiler, I can't
because there is no test framework setup for the Apache compiler.
I am one of the developers that could put a lot of work into the
compiler but, when there is no support around me I feel supporting
things like Josh's feathers framework or just doing my Android dev is
better use of my time right now.
Gordon mentioned he was getting tests setup for the framework, I have
been waiting, I'm not doing anything until there is at least a
consensus between members of this project on how to do that. But wait,
there are no members of the project that are even involved with the
compiler right now that I am aware of?
Anybody out there... ?
PS Obviously Gordon is respected by me and I don't expect an Adobe
employee to do everything.
This list is like a ghost town.
Mike
Quoting Michael Schmalle <m...@teotigraphix.com>:
This is interesting,
Gordon replied that sometime he might be bringing some of the
changes back to the Falcon compiler in an email a couple days ago
but Thibault now says no plans, hmm.
I had a look at the things that have been fixed in the change log of
ASC 2, there is no way I am going to spend my time trying to
duplicate the amount of bugs that have been fixed by Adobe on their
compiler.
It's great that Aodbe forked us a compiler, but then again what is
the use other than some free code and no "opensource" contribution.
My tone may sound a bit well, I don't really know but I coming from
the fact that I have not seen hardly ANY interest in others on this
dev list or around the "social" circles to have anything to do with
the compiler. If there were developers in this project that knew how
to push the gifted compiler code forward other than Gordon that is
an employee of Adobe, I would have a lot more encouragement here.
I don't think people understand that this new compiler framework is
the life or death of this project and if it doesn't get supported,
Apache Flex is a still born after 4.x in my opinion.
Mike
Quoting Jesus Barquin <yuka...@gmail.com>:
So... is there anybody at apache flex that can follow the flash runtime
evolution??? I mean improving future apache flex compiler, because the
runtime seems to be every day more and more far away from the apache flex
way and I feel a little bit scared.
2012/10/18 Thibault Imbert <timb...@adobe.com>
Hi Clint,
No, we have no plans.
Thibault Imbert | sr. product manager gaming (Graphics, Language, VM,
Compiler) | Monocle | adobe systems
gaming.adobe.com <http://gaming.adobe.com/> | bytearray.org
<http://bytearray.org/> | @thibault_imbert
On 10/17/12 11:04 PM, "Clint Modien" <cl...@vectorscape.com> wrote:
This obviously begs the questionŠ does Adobe plan on donating any changes
to ASC 2.0 back to Apache Flex?
On Oct 15, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Thibault Imbert <timb...@adobe.com> wrote:
Hi Mike,
Yes, we wanted to give you access to the compiler as soon as possible so
we decided to donate the final version of the compiler (aka Falcon) with
Flex (MXML) support that you guys could contribute to it and shape
Falcon
the way Flex developers decide to.
ASC 2.0 purpose was gaming focused, hence why we decided to pursue the
development on our side. Given that its audience today is different we
don't want to have gaming requirements for the compiler get in the way
of
requirements from Flex developers.
Thibault Imbert | sr. product manager gaming (Graphics, Language, VM,
Compiler) | Monocle | adobe systems
gaming.adobe.com <http://gaming.adobe.com/> | bytearray.org
<http://bytearray.org/> | @thibault_imbert
On 10/15/12 3:20 PM, "labri...@digitalprimates.net"
<labri...@digitalprimates.net> wrote:
Yes, ASC 2.0 is essentially a fork of Falcon. (More accurately, Falcon
was branched off back in the summer and the packages were renamed from
com.adobe.flash to org.apache.flex.) As far >as I know, I'll be
integrating these bugfixes into Falcon at some point.
So, essentially, adobe donated a snap shot in time of falcon and is
continuing development in a closed source manner. Is this accurate?
Mike
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