On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 5:48:22 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> This is physics and a range of experiments confirm this. The Bell >> inequality, to take this argument further, with polarizers is if one >> polarizer is set 30 degrees relative to the other, then think of the >> photons as polarized in the way a nail has a direction. 30 degrees is a >> third of a right angle, and so if we think of the photons as being like >> nails aligned in a certain direction, then at least 1/3rd of these nails >> would be deflected away. This is why an upper bound of 2/3rds of the >> photons in a classical setting will make it through, or less will by >> attenuating effects etc. But the quantum result gives 3/4. This is a >> violation of the Bell inequality, and with polarizers it is found in a >> "quantization on the large." Of course sensitive experiments work with one >> photon at a time, but the same result happens. This is done to insure there >> are not some other statistical effect at work between photons. >> >> LC >> > > > Bell's theorem is wrong. If p_hid(X) is the distribution of hidden > variables, and p_det(D) is the distribution of detector settings, and > p(X,D) is the joint distribution, then it assumes > > p(X,D) = p_hid(X)·p_det(D) > > an unwarranted (religious fundamentalist) assumption. > The trouble with your fundamentalist assumption is that it does not work in real physics. You have only to give a plausible dynamical model of how this works for the Aspect experiment, say, and we will accept that you have a point. But you are unable to do this. I would lay long odds on the fact they you will be unable to do it, even given an infinite amount of time and computing power. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLQMUsQ%3D%2BDxFG2S6BFTZiQoyGHsgabfLibaoxBJq%3DM13XQ%40mail.gmail.com.
