On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 1:20:08 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 5:48:22 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> This is physics and a range of experiments confirm this. The Bell >>> inequality, to take this argument further, with polarizers is if one >>> polarizer is set 30 degrees relative to the other, then think of the >>> photons as polarized in the way a nail has a direction. 30 degrees is a >>> third of a right angle, and so if we think of the photons as being like >>> nails aligned in a certain direction, then at least 1/3rd of these nails >>> would be deflected away. This is why an upper bound of 2/3rds of the >>> photons in a classical setting will make it through, or less will by >>> attenuating effects etc. But the quantum result gives 3/4. This is a >>> violation of the Bell inequality, and with polarizers it is found in a >>> "quantization on the large." Of course sensitive experiments work with one >>> photon at a time, but the same result happens. This is done to insure there >>> are not some other statistical effect at work between photons. >>> >>> LC >>> >> >> >> Bell's theorem is wrong. If p_hid(X) is the distribution of hidden >> variables, and p_det(D) is the distribution of detector settings, and >> p(X,D) is the joint distribution, then it assumes >> >> p(X,D) = p_hid(X)·p_det(D) >> >> an unwarranted (religious fundamentalist) assumption. >> > > The trouble with your fundamentalist assumption is that it does not work > in real physics. You have only to give a plausible dynamical model of how > this works for the Aspect experiment, say, and we will accept that you have > a point. But you are unable to do this. I would lay long odds on the fact > they you will be unable to do it, even given an infinite amount of time and > computing power. > > Bruce >
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