On 9 February 2014 22:40, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:27:57 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
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>> On 9 February 2014 15:11, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:47:26 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 7 February 2014 07:47, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >> >> Well, I *could* be a zombie and still say that, unless you consider
>> >> >> the idea of zombies contradictory (which maybe it is).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I bet you are not a zombie. But you seem to illustrate my point, if
>> >> > epiphenomenalism is true, despite you are not a zombie, you could be
>> >> > one,
>> >> > and that is a step toward the elimination of the person.
>> >>
>> >> I know I'm not a zombie, but you don't know that.
>> >
>> >
>> > You might know it intuitively, but not be able to justify it logically.
>>
>> If part of the defiinition of consciousness is that I know I am
>> conscious if I am conscious, then it's perfectly logical.
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>
> I meant to say "I might know it intuitively, but not be able to justify it
> logically".
>
> i.e., maybe part of the definition of being conscious is to know who else is
> conscious (with some dynamic margin of error greater than our self
> knowledge).

What if I tell you I am actually a computer program? What if we have
this conversation in 30 years time, when computer programs have got
much better at mimicking humans and no-one can consistently tell them
apart?


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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