On Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 12:37:00 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 5/26/2025 10:16 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Monday, May 26, 2025 at 11:07:03 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 5/26/2025 9:29 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Monday, May 26, 2025 at 7:44:59 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 5/26/2025 2:51 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Monday, May 26, 2025 at 5:57:36 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Sun, May 25, 2025 at 3:33 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> I'm disagreeing with anyone, including you, who thinks the EP is an 
absolute, when in fact it's a relative, an approximation.*


The Equivalence Principle, which is the foundation of General Relativity, 
states that at sufficiently small scales there is no way to tell the 
difference between a gravitational field and a simple acceleration. And it 
is not an approximation. But is it always correct? That is not certain 
because General Relativity does not take Quantum Mechanics into account, 
nevertheless so far at least the Equivalence Principle has easily passed 
every experimental test put to it.



*Since the EP depends on measurement accuracy, it's mischaracterized as 
some absolute principle. That's pretty obvious regardless of contrary 
opinions, including Einstein's. AG *

It was just an inspiring idea that Einstein had.  It didn't need to have 
three digit accuracy.

Brent



*Sure, but inspiring how, in what way? No one seems able to put some beef 
on this. AG *

He saw that gravity didn't need to be treated as a force, it could be 
treated as force-free motion in non-flat spacetime.  This explained why all 
objects, whatever the material, fall with the same acceleration, something 
already determined experimentally by Baron von Etvos.  It's sometimes 
referred to as inertial mass = gravitational mass.

Brent


*Interesting, TY, but does GR explain the acceleration? AG* 

I just wrote, "This explained why all objects, whatever the material, fall 
with the same acceleration,.."

Brent


*Change in position must occur because (I conjecture) geodesic motion 
depends on time, which is always incrementing. Doesn't this imply that 
every test particle has its own clock, or there's a universal clock which 
every particle can read? And why does acceleration exist; because the 
velocity vector changes direction due to the curvature of spacetime? TY, AG*
 

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