On 5/18/23 11:41, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 17 May 2023 at 22:49, paul dove via EV wrote:

So, what is your alternative. A leaf? They were the only ones that made
a usable vehicle.
Why not a Leaf?  Early ones had problems in hot climates, and I'm aware of
some warranty coverage gripes.  Despite that, quite a few people, including
members of this list, have owned them and have gotten good service from
them.

We bought a new 2011 Leaf.  Here in Texas, the battery lasted ~20k miles in ~2 years.  Nissan dealers, on several occasions, declared the battery to be "normal" even though range was about 50 miles.  Down from ~90.   I could have joined the class action suit but did not want to fool with it.  Just as I will not fool with Tesla about reduced SuperCharging power.  But, I will never buy another Nissan car.  Just as I will never buy another GM car.  I will, almost certainly, buy more Teslas.  I still keep track of that Leaf.  It is near valueless.  Not fooling with the class action suit was the right decision.  The participants got VERY little satisfaction.

GM still gets much grief for their behavior with the EV1.  IMHO, it was their right to do what they did.  There biggest sin was denying us NiMH chemistry for ~10 years.  With NiMH a FAR better Leaf could have been developed and sold.  As it is, EV adoption was delayed about ten years.


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