* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> [2025-03-24 19:47]: > Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes: > > > * Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> [2025-03-24 02:00]: > >> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes: > >> > It surprises me when someone as integral to programming seems lacking > >> > in basic social awareness or comprehension. > >> > > >> > If you have examples, show them. > >> > >> I told you about Alpha Go inventing new methods of playing Go. Methods > >> that human players took up and that changed how people play and learn go. > >> > >> If you can’t accept that as innovation, there is nothing you’ll accept > >> and this discussion is useless. > > > > It is very sad to see a doctor with such dismissive tone answering to > > me, instead of providing some facts, references or Dr.-like reasoning. > > The reason is your treatment of answers you receive. > > This gives the impression that when people send you in-depth answers on > the topic you don’t actually read them with the goal of understanding > their viewpoint and checking your own.
I am sorry for your feelings. There was no in-depth answer so far. I didn't ask for "answer", I asked for references of examples and none have been given by nobody. The feeling is that people like to "praise" computer for some innovations, though that wasn't my involvement in this discussion, only a simple question for some examples of creating something truly new. > If you want to understand where this impression comes from, read the > second sentence in my reply to the next part. Let me load deciphering tool to find out what you mean. Was that sentence above maybe an example of "in-depth" answer? > And your quotes don’t address what I wrote: AlphaGo revolutionarized how > experts play Go. That’s the innovation. I do not doubt that the new field of computing bullshit with neural networks has revolutionized not only how experts play Go but also helped many scientists, programmers, and common people by providing them with information. Though it is analogous to encyclopedic research, LLMs are asked questions and give straightforward answers which humans can practically apply in life; I have never had any doubt about this. However, that alone does not represent "creativity." -- Jean Louis --- via emacs-tangents mailing list (https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-tangents)
