* Eli Zaretskii <e...@gnu.org> [2025-03-22 10:38]:
> > From: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh...@gmail.com>,  Eli Zaretskii <e...@gnu.org>,
> >  arne_...@web.de,  van...@sdf.org,  emacs-tangents@gnu.org
> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 10:37:48 -0400
> > 
> > Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> > 
> > > While people can strive to change definitions of words, in this case
> > > it is not subjective, rather objective definition.
> > 
> > What is or isn't considered "innovation" is not objective.  Even if the
> > term may be defined objectively in terms of characteristics such as
> > "new" or "novel", what those terms mean isn't objective.
> 
> I suggest to drop this.  Jean Louis cannot be convinced to even
> consider changing his mind about this.  He is locked on the idea which
> basically says that "innovation" is something that only humans can do,
> by definition.

I don't see why this personal comment about me? How is that relevant
to providing references to examples?

I am the one who asked the question and asking questions means that
person lacks some knowledge.

It means I wanted to see example of something truly new created by
Large Language Model (LLM).

It surprises me when someone as integral to programming seems lacking
in basic social awareness or comprehension.

If you have examples, show them.

Otherwise, I have been searching and found no examples where Large
Language Model (LLM) can innovate or create something truly new.

My references are on this page:

Simple question that Microsoft Phi-4 Large Language Model (LLM) cannot answer:
https://gnu.support/large-language-models-llm/Simple-question-that-Microsoft-Phi-4-Large-Language-Model-LLM-cannot-answer.html

And remember, I never disputed the fact that Large Language Model
(LLM) can be used as a tool helping human to create something new.

If it can create something new, then why not show it?

Or are you missing some token speeds?

Jean Louis

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