*  Eli Zaretskii <e...@gnu.org> <868qoufvf0....@gnu.org>
Wrote on Mon, 24 Mar 2025 14:46:43 +0200
>> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 14:27:56 +0530 (IST)
>> From: Madhu <enom...@meer.net>
>> Are you talking of LLMs or of other ML models?
> For the purpose of this discussion, what is the difference?

I thought, if the difference was real and the strong form of the
differnece takes the form I imagined, that it would explain where The
OP(Jean Louis) was coming from. (I haven't read full thread yet.)

> If by "LLM" you mean only those models that produce text (either for
> human consumption or text of programs), then no, I'm not talking about
> LLMs of that kind.

Again I may be mistaken but I assumed LLMs have to do with
manipulation of language elements and also necessarily involved
generation of language elements -- there is no real problem to be
solved except consumption of humans and other LLMs.

If you have an example of a LLM domain is not generative in the above
sense, maybe I can understand.  (I haven't touched Machine Learning
mathematics since 2006 and it is likely I'm conceptually wrong)


> "Clearly definable" is in the eyes of the beholder.  Some problems
> have only probabilistic solutions, in which case the output is some
> kind of weight or score.

And these will be assigned based on an overreaching agenda and the
power and clout to pull it off (maybe like discussions on
emacs-devel?).  This it is the opportunity to program socio-economic
political meta-models into the real world systems where this
technology is to be implemented.

[snip]
> I'm not sure this aspect is at all relevant to the present discussion.

(it was relevant to my sense of what it meant for people "to accept")

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