FWIW I think the document should go ahead, with pretty minor edit about the
current practice/should stuff. I think it was good to author a document on
whats currently done even if people want other things done.

(I don't mean my other things, I mean other peoples other things. one does
not refer to oneself in the third person unless mad)

-G

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Richard Lamb <richard.l...@icann.org>
wrote:

> Sheesh..I thought we were talking about engineering issues.
>
>
>
> Speaking only as the humble engineer who helped develop the publication
> methods and wrote the software that generates all the pieces, the most
> recent draft does describe what my programs, scripts, and other pieces do.
> If there is any technical variance, please let me know I don’t pretend to
> be perfect.  I run another copy of some of the pieces on my KSK rollover
> test setup now, so id like to know.
>
>
>
> I have no opinion regarding the more abstract discussion regarding where
> such a description belongs and look to learn from those better versed in
> that subject.
>
>
>
> -Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *George
> Michaelson
> *Sent:* Monday, October 5, 2015 8:07 AM
> *To:* Joe Abley <jab...@hopcount.ca>
> *Cc:* dnsop WG <dnsop@ietf.org>; Paul Hoffman <paul.hoff...@vpnc.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending:
> <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>
>
>
>
> If its on the internet, its not out of band.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Joe Abley <jab...@hopcount.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 5 Oct 2015, at 10:42, George Michaelson wrote:
>
> > Something very left field for me, but I believe important, is that we
> need
> > to also publish the out-of-band publication point of the trust material.
>
> This draft is exclusively concerned with publishing trust anchors
> out-of-band of the protocol.
>
> > I mentioned this to Joe some time ago and was very correctly told "out of
> > scope" but I believe its nonsensical to exclude physical publication, eg
> in
> > newspapers of record for at least 3 economies worldwide, of the hash of
> the
> > public key as a standing event.
>
> This draft aims to document current practice. To my knowledge, nobody has
> ever published a trust anchor (or even a pointer to it) in print media.
>
> > In-band only has some issues for me, if we are talking about trust.
>
> Me too, hence the decision by ICANN to publish trust anchors using
> out-of-band mechanisms in 2009/2010, as this draft aims to document.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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