Is anyone from Apache Nation also a committer or member here? On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 03:45, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 11/05/2019 17:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > > On 5/10/19 4:22 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> For the record, years ago the ASF reached out to the relevant Native > >> Americans to check if they were happy with us using the name Apache and > >> they confirmed that they were. > > > > Mark, > > > > I've heard this stated. I've probably even said it myself from time to > > time. But I have been completely unable to verify that this happened. If > > you (or anyone) has any actual "paper trail" of this happening, that > > would be remarkably helpful. > > The best I can find is a private mail from you related to LEGAL-284 > saying you had a vague memory that Brian Behlendorf had reached out. > > I'm sure I've heard it more than once. I'm still trying to track down > references... > > I found some public discussion of this issue back in 1995 on the httpd > dev list. > http://apache.markmail.org/thread/gfkjpxulyj4n3ozn > From that discussion: > - a) folks were aware of the potential issue > - b) no offence was intended > - c) no-one had reached out at that point > > Use useful background from Roy: > http://markmail.org/message/inlm4kp6wuyoqrqx > > A link from the public archives: > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/423c17fa19fd2564a6520ff21776d54e242c08d3612561f05bd87f58@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > In the private archives I found: > > - A reference that at OSCON 09 a member of the Apache Nation politely > mentioned that they should be referred to as the Apache Nation and > not a tribe. > > > In summary, I can't find a definitive first-hand account of a formal > discussion between the ASF and representatives of the Apache Nation. > > I can find a handful of interactions between the ASF and people who > identify as a member of the Apache Nation. None of those has indicated > that they have an issue with the ASF's use of "Apache". > > Mark > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: diversity-unsubscr...@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: diversity-h...@apache.org > > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
