On Mon, 2024-11-11 at 11:58 +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > Well, I am very sad about this step and I feel very sorry that you > are trying to remove the word karma from the process. I believe that > Karma denotes one of the most powerful, the most noble, and the most > fair principles of this world, because traditionally it is above this > world. > Kudos, or anything you have suggested, is far less. I have a very feint idea a very faint idea"kudos" even means - I guess "you did fine/did something nice ?" I guess in the context of some limited subset of anglophone countries. Definitely less known globally than karma. And I don't even want to think how negative/neutral kudos would make sense...
> > The Linux world has always had a kind of "lore" with interesting > project names, acronyms, which mostly were made up as "pun intended". > I do not understand why anybody has an urge to take this away. > > Please, think twice about it, because the world will always get you > people that want to diminish the meaning of your contribution to the > project by claiming that your work is not noble/tolerant/clean/you- > name-it enough. Once you take a step back, they will take up new > positions and they'll start pushing again. Yeah, if you want to avoid endless bikeshedding and complaints about small details, a line needs to be drawn at some point. > > And you will hardly get back what you let go. > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 9:16 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > <zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 08:47:57AM +0100, Sandro wrote: > > > On 11-11-2024 08:27, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 03:18:49PM +0000, Mattia Verga via > > devel wrote: > > > > > I have started to move away Bodhi from using the term "karma" > > to rate > > > > > updates. I know this word has become familiar to all Fedora > > users, but > > > > > there were several requests in the past to stop the misuse. > > As I may not > > > > > be the most "politically correct" person you know, this task > > has been > > > > > low priority for me; nevertheless, I've now found some spare > > time to > > > > > start working on it. > > > > > > > > > > So, I plan to replace the term "karma" with "feedback" where > > users > > > > > submit their (+1|0|-1) vote: a Comment will no more have the > > "karma" > > > > > property, but it will be "feedback". At the same time, > > TestCaseKarma and > > > > > BugKarma will become TestCaseFeedback and BugFeedback. > > > > > > > > > > For updates, the term "karma" is used as the sum of all > > karma|feedback > > > > > submitted by users, so I plan to rename this to "rating". > > English is not > > > > > my native language, but I think it is correct to rate an > > update > > > > > positive|neutral|negative and rating should be quite > > understandable to > > > > > foreign speakers. > > > > > > > > Is this decision final? "karma" is a distinct term that is not > > easily > > > > confused. But if you tell me that an update had a negative > > "rating", > > > > people in Fedora will not know what you're talking about. The > > word > > > > is much more generic. > > > > > > How about replacing the term "karma" with "kudos"? It has a > > similar ring to > > > it and should be uncontroversial. > > > > That's a great idea. If we are to change, please do 'kudos' rather > > 'rating'/'feedback'/'evaluation'. > > > > Zbyszek > > > > > Could the icon above the colon voor neutral (neither positive nor > > negative) > > > be changed at the same time to make it more distinct? It now uses > > the same > > > thumbs up as the positive colon, wrongly suggesting the default > > selection > > > being positive karma|kudos|feedback when it actually doesn't add > > to the > > > count. > > > > > > -- Sandro > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
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