On 22 July 2013 17:09, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:46 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 2013 8:59 AM, "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 07/22/2013 04:46 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>
> >>> On Jul 20, 2013 11:38 PM, "Andrea Pescetti"<pesce...@apache.org>
>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Remember, the number of people who have admin-related questions about
> >>>>> the wiki are very, very, very few in number.  They will be best
> served
> >>>>> by directing them to some variation of a page like the one we have on
> >>>>> the main website:
> >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not linking directly to it then? It would be enough to add a
> section
> >>>
> >>> to
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html
> >>>> like the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> * If you have technical problems with one of the OpenOffice
> websites...
> >>>> - For problems with the www.openoffice.org site: contact
> >>>
> >>> dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert "[Website]" in the subject
> >>>>
> >>>> - For problems with the https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ site: contact
> >>>
> >>> aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> - For problems with the wiki.openoffice.org site: contact
> >>>
> >>> dev@openoffice.apache.org and insert "[Mwiki]" in the subject
> >>>>
> >>>> - For problems with the https://translate.apache.org/ site: contact
> >>>
> >>> l...@openoffice.apache.org and insert "[Pootle]" in the subject
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>    Andrea.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This suggestion looks very reasonable to me.
> >>
> >>
> >> In general also for me reasonable. But I don't want to rely on the
> > subject prefix that the users have to insert manually. Rather, I would
> use
> > some aliases to see where the mail come from.
> >>
> >> web-admin@ --> dev@
> >> wiki-admin@ --> dev@
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
> >
> > sounds good to me, even though I dont think it will make a huge
> difference'
> > having a contact link on wiki will cause trafic, and users pr
> defitinition
> > choose the easy road.
> >
>
> Yes, users are lazy, but they also know what they want.  They only
> write to the dev list if there is no other option that sounds closer
> to what they were looking for.
>
> So if we have have a page that gives them the appropriate options for
> support, reporting bugs, admin issues, etc., and order these
> appropriately on
> the page (most commonly needed at top), then we should do OK.  The
> idea that Dave had was to add these items to an existing contact page
> that already has these other options.
>
> So the issue is that 99.99% of the visitors to a wiki page, if they
> have a question, will have a product support question.  Some, but very
> few, will have an admin-related question.  It is OK to tell how to get
> admin help, but we need to make sure that we say, in the same place,
> how to get product support, and make the product support more
> prominent by listing it first.  That explains the ordering of
> information on the contact page:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html
>
> It is not perfect, but it gets most people closer to where they want to be.
>
> which I why I wrote "sounds good to me".

Also, to the other idea, an alternative to a set of email aliases is
> to use URL's of the form:
> mailto:d...@openoffice.org?subject=[Pootle].
>
+1 that is a better idea, since we do not need to maintain extra virtual
mail adresses
    (I did not know that trix, thats pretty cool)

rgds
jan I.


> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > rgds
> > jan i
> >>
> >>
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