Well it's obviously not working, because I'm still getting emails. Judging by the levels of understanding I've witnessed here, I can understand how something as simple as catching an incoming email, parsing out the address and removing it from a database is a monumental task and apparently easy to screw up.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:28 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Jesse Nicholson < > ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > How do I unsubscribe from the apache morticians of private corporate > > interest list? > > > > Step by step instructions are here: > http://flex.apache.org/community-mailinglists.html > > Thanks, > Om > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Jesse Nicholson < > > ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > It works in Chrome as well. But that doesn't matter. It's not full > blown > > > because it's not a complete product. Besides, its a stupid toy project > > > meant to demonstrate running a fast VM inside a fast VM. His post is > > > retarded, he's a flash developer in denial that his career path is > over. > > > Apparently you are too? Or maybe IBM has a bunch of flex based projects > > > that you're here to make sure keep running? > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:53 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < > > bigosma...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson < > > >> ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > @Jude, tbh I skimmed over half of your post. > > >> > > >> > > >> Not cool. I think you should go back and read it because he makes a > lot > > >> of > > >> sense. > > >> > > >> > > >> > I didn't say plugins are bad, > > >> > at all, ever. Did you click the links I posted here? Did you see a > > full > > >> > blown actionscript virtual machine in pure JS that emulates > everything > > >> > flash does in the browser? > > >> > > >> > > >> On one browser. What about the other browsers? > > >> Also, it is no where near a full blown implementation. Take a look > for > > >> yourself: > > >> > > >> > > > https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/search?p=40&q=notImplemented&utf8=%E2%9C%93 > > >> https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/wiki/Big-Picture > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Om > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm not really sure there is anything more to > > >> > say after that. Just because there are 2 billion installations (if > > that > > >> > number is real) of flash, that really doesn't mean anything. There > are > > >> > probably 100 billion installations of microsoft solitaire on windows > > >> > computers, that does not equal 100 billion people playing solitaire. > > >> > > > >> > At its height, Adobe estimated the flash developer community to be > > >> around 2 > > >> > million people. When I job search, I can find about 1-2 flash > > developer > > >> > jobs in all of Ontario (where I live). 5 years ago, there were pages > > >> upon > > >> > pages. With all due respect, fighting the future is what killed > flash > > in > > >> > the first place. If we bring that mentality to flex, it'll die with > > it. > > >> I > > >> > don't want to see that happen. My comments are not to inflame or > > offend > > >> > anyone. > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:18 PM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hi Jesse, > > >> > > Welcome to the group. You're perspective is welcome. But one thing > > I'm > > >> > sick > > >> > > of hearing and have to disagree with is the Flash is dead > argument. > > If > > >> > it's > > >> > > in use it's not dead. It's used by over 2 billion people and used > > >> > regularly > > >> > > to create mobile AIR apps. The browser can't compete yet and there > > are > > >> > > still many shortcomings. Here is my response on Quora, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://www.quora.com/Adobe-Flash/How-did-Flash-die-so-quickly/answer/Judah-Frangipane > > >> > > . > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > The whole argument that plugins are bad is absurd. That's saying > > >> software > > >> > > that works with other software is bad. Plugins are one of the best > > >> > > advancements we have made in computer science. Being able to add > > >> plugins > > >> > to > > >> > > Ableton, Fruity Loops, ProTools, Photoshop, Illustrator and so on > > has > > >> > > vastly increased the capabilities and services that original > > software > > >> had > > >> > > to offer. Plugins have INCREASED the value of the original > software. > > >> And > > >> > > browsers (gasp!) are also software that allow plugins. > > >> > > > > >> > > Without Flash and other plugins we wouldn't have had progressive > and > > >> > > streaming video or premium content available in the browser. We > > >> wouldn't > > >> > > have chat, microphone or video camera apps in the browser. We > > wouldn't > > >> > have > > >> > > had animation, right to left text and international text layout. > We > > >> > > wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of games or game developers or > > app > > >> > > developers who got started with AS3 and Flash and other plugins. > And > > >> one > > >> > of > > >> > > the best advantages plugins have over the host software is that > they > > >> can > > >> > be > > >> > > enabled or disabled! You have choice with a plugin where with the > > >> > original > > >> > > software you can't disable something that may be resource > intensive. > > >> > > Without plugins we'd have apps for every single site that required > > >> > features > > >> > > the browser didn't supply or nothing at all. > > >> > > > > >> > > Flash and AIR have been improving and growing as a technology for > > the > > >> > last > > >> > > 10+ years. It's mind blowing that it's reaching it's stride and > > >> becoming > > >> > > one of the best platforms to develop and people are saying to > throw > > it > > >> > out. > > >> > > What we need to do is get Adobe to invest more back into it > (rather > > >> than > > >> > > doing the least amount without causing a revolt) or spin it off to > > >> it's > > >> > own > > >> > > company. That and reduce all the misinformation out there about > > >> plugins. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jesse Nicholson < > > >> > > ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > I forgot to mention something that I think is worth mentioning > > with > > >> > > regard > > >> > > > to the debate of "can pure JS/HTML do what the flash runtime > can." > > >> To > > >> > > > answer that, just look at Mozilla Shumway, a full blown AVM2 > > virtual > > >> > > > machine written in pure JS. Too bad it didn't have some kind of > > AOT > > >> > > > functionality.:) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/mozilla/shumway > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jesse Nicholson < > > >> > > > ascensionsyst...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Like I said I'm new here, I respect everyone, I don't mean to > be > > >> the > > >> > > > > armchair expert at flex and the apache-flex community. But, > > >> perhaps > > >> > > part > > >> > > > of > > >> > > > > the issues faced here is a lack of a clear goal for the future > > >> and a > > >> > > lack > > >> > > > > of a clear, independent identity, as a product and a team. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > Jesse Nicholson > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Jesse Nicholson > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jesse Nicholson > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jesse Nicholson > > > -- Jesse Nicholson
