Well, you can't get pizza that is decent in the US anyways, :P On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
> -1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reputable? > > Apache is not about tooting your own horn. Go back to your respective > company and have them purchase press releases and advertise on their sites. > Apache is not a locale for horn tooting. > > Jeff > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: > >> Unless it is blatant lies (i.e., non-reputable companies), I say let the >> companies do a little bit of advertising on the Support page, even if they >> contradict each other or embellish a bit. We want users to choose support, >> because it results in more hired people working on the projects. Let the >> support page be the "toot your own horn" page and instead enforce >> non-advertising throughout the rest of the manual, where everything does >> need to be strictly factual. >> >> Keeping a loose leash on the Support page also helps minimize strife between >> teams. >> >> In Manhattan there might be 300 places to buy pizza, about 75 of which claim >> to be "New York's Best Pizza!" That's just advertising, it doesn't need to >> be taken seriously. >> >> Glen >> >> >> On 02.02.2011 20:50, Daniel Kulp wrote: >>> Someone is paying attention... cool. :-) >>> >>> On Wednesday 02 February 2011 8:27:38 pm Benson Margulies wrote: >>>> Do we need to have these dueling claims for who employs how many >>>> committers / PMC members? Could we persuade both Talend and FUSE to >>>> just say 'committers, get your red hot committers!' >>> I'm in the process of cleaning things up a bit. I've been chatting with >>> various people on the trademark committee as well as others and one >>> "concern" >>> that has been expressed with some projects is project sites being used as >>> marketing vehicles for specific commercial offerings and products. The >>> guideline I got was: >>> >>> -------------------- >>> PMCs can choose to have "these companies support our product" pages if >>> they want. But they have to be factual, non-advertisements; should be >>> in specific places on the project's site; and must not be exclusive >>> (i.e. any other reputable company needs to be able to request to add >>> links as well). >>> -------------------- >>> >>> Step one was just to copy the information and localize it all to a specific >>> page. Step two is the "factual, non-advertisement" part. >>> >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:23 PM,<conflue...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> Commercial CXF Offerings >>>>> >>>>> Page added by Daniel Kulp >>>>> >>>>> Commercial CXF Offerings >>>>> >>>>> Apache CXF is a widely used project. As such several companies have build >>>>> products and services around CXF. This page is dedicated to providing >>>>> descriptions of those offerings. Companies are definitely encouraged to >>>>> update this page directly or send a mail to the CXF PMC with a >>>>> description of your offerings and we can update the page. The products >>>>> and services listed on this page are provided for information use only >>>>> to our users. The CXF PMC does not endorse or recommend any of the >>>>> products or services on this page. >>>>> >>>>> FuseSource >>>>> >>>>> FuseSource offers enterprise subscriptions that include Enterprise >>>>> Developer and Production Support on ActiveMQ, Camel, CXF and ServiceMix >>>>> - including Training, Consulting& Mentoring. They also employ most of >>>>> the core committers on the projects to ensure you get the best possible >>>>> answers to all your support needs and your bugs fixed fast. >>>>> >>>>> MuleSoft >>>>> >>>>> MuleSoft provides support for Apache CXF as a part of its Mule enterprise >>>>> subscription offering. Mule is a popular open source ESB and integration >>>>> platform, with support for SOAP web services, as well as REST, JMS, File >>>>> and over 100+ additional transports. >>>>> >>>>> Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd >>>>> >>>>> Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd provides training and support for CXF, >>>>> along with training and support for web services security and SOA based >>>>> on CXF. >>>>> >>>>> Talend >>>>> >>>>> Talend provides enterprise level services and support for Apache CXF and >>>>> their Talend Service Factory product which is a repackaging of CXF >>>>> including a full, pre-configured OSGi runtime container. Talend also has >>>>> a package of examples that demonstrate many of CXF's advanced features >>>>> including JAX-RS use cases, OSGi deployments, Security, etc... Talend >>>>> also employs the leading CXF committers that are experts in all areas of >>>>> CXF including JAX-RS, JAX-WS, WS-Security, etc... to make sure any bugs >>>>> and issues can be resolved quickly and accurately. >>>>> >>>>> Change Notification Preferences >>>>> View Online | Add Comment >> >> >> -- >> Glen Mazza >> Software Engineer, Talend (http://www.talend.com) >> blog: http://www.jroller.com/gmazza >> >> >