-1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reputable?
Apache is not about tooting your own horn. Go back to your respective company and have them purchase press releases and advertise on their sites. Apache is not a locale for horn tooting. Jeff On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: > Unless it is blatant lies (i.e., non-reputable companies), I say let the > companies do a little bit of advertising on the Support page, even if they > contradict each other or embellish a bit. We want users to choose support, > because it results in more hired people working on the projects. Let the > support page be the "toot your own horn" page and instead enforce > non-advertising throughout the rest of the manual, where everything does need > to be strictly factual. > > Keeping a loose leash on the Support page also helps minimize strife between > teams. > > In Manhattan there might be 300 places to buy pizza, about 75 of which claim > to be "New York's Best Pizza!" That's just advertising, it doesn't need to > be taken seriously. > > Glen > > > On 02.02.2011 20:50, Daniel Kulp wrote: >> Someone is paying attention... cool. :-) >> >> On Wednesday 02 February 2011 8:27:38 pm Benson Margulies wrote: >>> Do we need to have these dueling claims for who employs how many >>> committers / PMC members? Could we persuade both Talend and FUSE to >>> just say 'committers, get your red hot committers!' >> I'm in the process of cleaning things up a bit. I've been chatting with >> various people on the trademark committee as well as others and one "concern" >> that has been expressed with some projects is project sites being used as >> marketing vehicles for specific commercial offerings and products. The >> guideline I got was: >> >> -------------------- >> PMCs can choose to have "these companies support our product" pages if >> they want. But they have to be factual, non-advertisements; should be >> in specific places on the project's site; and must not be exclusive >> (i.e. any other reputable company needs to be able to request to add >> links as well). >> -------------------- >> >> Step one was just to copy the information and localize it all to a specific >> page. Step two is the "factual, non-advertisement" part. >> >> >> Dan >> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:23 PM,<conflue...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> Commercial CXF Offerings >>>> >>>> Page added by Daniel Kulp >>>> >>>> Commercial CXF Offerings >>>> >>>> Apache CXF is a widely used project. As such several companies have build >>>> products and services around CXF. This page is dedicated to providing >>>> descriptions of those offerings. Companies are definitely encouraged to >>>> update this page directly or send a mail to the CXF PMC with a >>>> description of your offerings and we can update the page. The products >>>> and services listed on this page are provided for information use only >>>> to our users. The CXF PMC does not endorse or recommend any of the >>>> products or services on this page. >>>> >>>> FuseSource >>>> >>>> FuseSource offers enterprise subscriptions that include Enterprise >>>> Developer and Production Support on ActiveMQ, Camel, CXF and ServiceMix >>>> - including Training, Consulting& Mentoring. They also employ most of >>>> the core committers on the projects to ensure you get the best possible >>>> answers to all your support needs and your bugs fixed fast. >>>> >>>> MuleSoft >>>> >>>> MuleSoft provides support for Apache CXF as a part of its Mule enterprise >>>> subscription offering. Mule is a popular open source ESB and integration >>>> platform, with support for SOAP web services, as well as REST, JMS, File >>>> and over 100+ additional transports. >>>> >>>> Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd >>>> >>>> Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd provides training and support for CXF, >>>> along with training and support for web services security and SOA based >>>> on CXF. >>>> >>>> Talend >>>> >>>> Talend provides enterprise level services and support for Apache CXF and >>>> their Talend Service Factory product which is a repackaging of CXF >>>> including a full, pre-configured OSGi runtime container. Talend also has >>>> a package of examples that demonstrate many of CXF's advanced features >>>> including JAX-RS use cases, OSGi deployments, Security, etc... Talend >>>> also employs the leading CXF committers that are experts in all areas of >>>> CXF including JAX-RS, JAX-WS, WS-Security, etc... to make sure any bugs >>>> and issues can be resolved quickly and accurately. >>>> >>>> Change Notification Preferences >>>> View Online | Add Comment > > > -- > Glen Mazza > Software Engineer, Talend (http://www.talend.com) > blog: http://www.jroller.com/gmazza > >