OK, fine, providing they can link to such horn tooting pages from the
support site. Open source supporting companies hire marketing reps and
I have no problem with them enticing users into getting commercial
support. It's good for the community. CXF cannot survive on arrogant
inactive committers alone.
Glen
On 02.02.2011 22:28, Jeff Genender wrote:
-1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reputable?
Apache is not about tooting your own horn. Go back to your respective company
and have them purchase press releases and advertise on their sites. Apache is
not a locale for horn tooting.
Jeff
On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Glen Mazza wrote:
Unless it is blatant lies (i.e., non-reputable companies), I say let the companies do a
little bit of advertising on the Support page, even if they contradict each other or
embellish a bit. We want users to choose support, because it results in more hired
people working on the projects. Let the support page be the "toot your own
horn" page and instead enforce non-advertising throughout the rest of the manual,
where everything does need to be strictly factual.
Keeping a loose leash on the Support page also helps minimize strife between
teams.
In Manhattan there might be 300 places to buy pizza, about 75 of which claim to be
"New York's Best Pizza!" That's just advertising, it doesn't need to be taken
seriously.
Glen
On 02.02.2011 20:50, Daniel Kulp wrote:
Someone is paying attention... cool. :-)
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 8:27:38 pm Benson Margulies wrote:
Do we need to have these dueling claims for who employs how many
committers / PMC members? Could we persuade both Talend and FUSE to
just say 'committers, get your red hot committers!'
I'm in the process of cleaning things up a bit. I've been chatting with
various people on the trademark committee as well as others and one "concern"
that has been expressed with some projects is project sites being used as
marketing vehicles for specific commercial offerings and products. The
guideline I got was:
--------------------
PMCs can choose to have "these companies support our product" pages if
they want. But they have to be factual, non-advertisements; should be
in specific places on the project's site; and must not be exclusive
(i.e. any other reputable company needs to be able to request to add
links as well).
--------------------
Step one was just to copy the information and localize it all to a specific
page. Step two is the "factual, non-advertisement" part.
Dan
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:23 PM,<conflue...@apache.org> wrote:
Commercial CXF Offerings
Page added by Daniel Kulp
Commercial CXF Offerings
Apache CXF is a widely used project. As such several companies have build
products and services around CXF. This page is dedicated to providing
descriptions of those offerings. Companies are definitely encouraged to
update this page directly or send a mail to the CXF PMC with a
description of your offerings and we can update the page. The products
and services listed on this page are provided for information use only
to our users. The CXF PMC does not endorse or recommend any of the
products or services on this page.
FuseSource
FuseSource offers enterprise subscriptions that include Enterprise
Developer and Production Support on ActiveMQ, Camel, CXF and ServiceMix
- including Training, Consulting& Mentoring. They also employ most of
the core committers on the projects to ensure you get the best possible
answers to all your support needs and your bugs fixed fast.
MuleSoft
MuleSoft provides support for Apache CXF as a part of its Mule enterprise
subscription offering. Mule is a popular open source ESB and integration
platform, with support for SOAP web services, as well as REST, JMS, File
and over 100+ additional transports.
Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd
Sosnoski Software Associates Ltd provides training and support for CXF,
along with training and support for web services security and SOA based
on CXF.
Talend
Talend provides enterprise level services and support for Apache CXF and
their Talend Service Factory product which is a repackaging of CXF
including a full, pre-configured OSGi runtime container. Talend also has
a package of examples that demonstrate many of CXF's advanced features
including JAX-RS use cases, OSGi deployments, Security, etc... Talend
also employs the leading CXF committers that are experts in all areas of
CXF including JAX-RS, JAX-WS, WS-Security, etc... to make sure any bugs
and issues can be resolved quickly and accurately.
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