I don't think Walters use of "others" is intended to pass the buck.
@Walter, I'm assuming that your intent was to better understand the process
and scope of "how do I make a change in the ASF"?

I think we agree this is a big task, regardless of avenue.


My intent was mostly to gauge/rally interest in a direction that is likely
to gain the most support and volunteers.

If option 3 is your choice, then I suppose the next step is working with
members of ASF to determine specific scope of work? It's probably worth
identifying blockers up front and evaluating those before starting to apply
elbow grease.

On Tue, May 3, 2022, 18:18 Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 5:49 PM Walter Cameron
> <walter.li...@waltercameron.com> wrote:
> >
> > My homework above was all about gathering more data to help others make a
> > decision, but if there’s already an agreement on what needs to be done
> and
> > the board or membership is willing make a change without a poll or vote
> > that’s fine with me, I’m all for getting to the action if change is
> already
> > what’s agreed on here. I’m just trying to work with whatever options are
> > available to me.
>
> Why "others"?
>
> My hot button is when people use the words like "they" and "others".
> The ASF is the set of people who show up to do the work.  As such it
> is constantly growing and shrinking as new people show up and others
> move on to other things.
>
> If you are sincere about being willing to do the work, then you are part
> of us.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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