So how would you distinguish a spammer's subscription request from that of a valid user? I certainly can't from looking at the email address alone.
Uli On 17.08.15 14:46, sebb wrote: > On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote: >> So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal dev@ >> list operates. >> >> Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post. >> >> The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation - that >> is an on|off switch so therefore >> ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator. >> >> If you are ok with that I can make the change . > > +1 from me. > > >> I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the subscription for >> the user in this thread. > > That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know. > >> Let me know, >> >> Gav… >> >>> On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>> Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up >>> Google Groups features with our lists) >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> From: jan i <mailto:j...@apache.org> >>> Sent: 8/17/2015 1:44 AM >>> To: dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org> >>> Cc: Roman Shaposhnik <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>; Apache Infrastructure >>> <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >>> >>> On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com >>> <mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Moderating first posts would be better. >>>> >>> +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the >>> moderators to not get overloaded with work. >>> >>> Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others. >>> >>> rgds >>> jan i. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com <mailto:seb...@gmail.com>] >>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM >>>> To: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> >>>> Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>; >>>> Apache Infrastructure < >>>> infrastruct...@apache.org <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org>> >>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >>>> >>>> This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o >>>> <mailto:dev-log@community.a.o> for >>>> details) >>>> >>>> Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. >>>> >>>> On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org >>>> <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> wrote: >>>>> This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com <mailto:name0905189...@icloud.com>> >>>>> Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at >>>> ASF? >>>>> To: "dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>" >>>>> <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 從我的 iPhone 傳送 >>>>> >>>>>> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> 於 >>>>>> 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道： >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org >>>>>>> <mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>>>>>> Bill, >>>>>>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" >>>>>>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was >>>> misleading... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww> >>>>>>> .apache.org >>>>>>> <http://apache.org/>%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c >>>>>>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com >>>>>>> <http://40microsoft.com/>%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72 >>>>>>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG >>>>>>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to >>>>>>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our >>>>>>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from >>>>>>> publicly providing software using our trademarks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any >>>>>>> other corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our >>>>>>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are >>>>>>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Make sense? >>>>>> >>>>>> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to >>>>>> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >>>>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d >>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d> >>>>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d >>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs >>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs>. >>>>>> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com >>>>>> <http://40microsoft.com/> >>>>>> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4 >>>>>> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d >>>>>> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply in >>>>>> both cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases of >>>>>> how PMCs are conducting themselves. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Roman. >>>> >> >> Gav... >> >> ( ( ( >> ( )\ ) )\ ) )\ ) ( ) >> ) >> )\ (()/((()/( (()/( )\ ) ( ) ( /( ( ( ( >> /( ( ( ( >> ((((_)( /(_))/(_)) /(_)) ( (()/( )( ( /( ( )\()))( ))\ ( >> )\()) ))\ )( ))\ >> )\ _ )\ (_)) (_))_| (_)) )\ ) /(_))(()\ )(_)) )\ (_))/(()\ /((_) )\ >> (_))/ /((_)(()\ /((_) >> (_)_\(_)/ __|| |_ |_ _| _(_/((_) _| ((_)((_)_ ((_)| |_ ((_)(_))( ((_)| >> |_ (_))( ((_)(_)) >> / _ \ \__ \| __| | | | ' \))| _|| '_|/ _` |(_-<| _|| '_|| || |/ _| | >> _|| || || '_|/ -_) >> /_/ \_\ |___/|_| |___||_||_| |_| |_| \__,_|/__/ \__||_| \_,_|\__| >> \__| \_,_||_| \___| >> >> >> >> >>
