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Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com> > Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? > To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org> > > > > > 從我的 iPhone 傳送 > >> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道： >> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> >>> wrote: >>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>> Bill, >>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I >>>> thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... >>> >>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >>> >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#products >>> >>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to ASF >>> projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our trademark >>> policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from publicly >>> providing software using our trademarks. >>> >>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any other >>> corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our formal >>> trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are allowed to >>> use our websites, software code, and brands. >>> >>> Make sense? >> >> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors >> (just to take the most obvious example) set a very confusing >> precedent. >> >> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >> http://pkgs.org/search/hadoop >> http://pkgs.org/search/maven >> http://pkgs.org/search/subversion >> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding >> policies apply in both cases. >> >> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse >> set of cases of how PMCs are conducting themselves. >> >> Thanks, >> Roman.
