Moderating first posts would be better. -----Original Message----- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM To: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org>; Apache Infrastructure <infrastruct...@apache.org> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o for details) Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com> > Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? > To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org> > > > > > 從我的 iPhone 傳送 > >> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道： >> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> >>> wrote: >>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>> Bill, >>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" >>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... >>> >>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >>> >>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww >>> .apache.org%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c >>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72 >>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG >>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d >>> >>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to >>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our >>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from >>> publicly providing software using our trademarks. >>> >>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any >>> other corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our >>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are >>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands. >>> >>> Make sense? >> >> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to >> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent. >> >> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs. >> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com >> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4 >> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d >> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply in >> both cases. >> >> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases of >> how PMCs are conducting themselves. >> >> Thanks, >> Roman.
