This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no?

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From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>




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> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>>> Bill,
>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I
>>> thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading...
>>
>> No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:
>>
>>  https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#products
>>
>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to ASF
>> projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our trademark
>> policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from publicly
>> providing software using our trademarks.
>>
>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any other
>> corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and our formal
>> trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are allowed to
>> use our websites, software code, and brands.
>>
>> Make sense?
>
> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors
> (just to take the most obvious example) set a very confusing
> precedent.
>
> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at:
>   http://pkgs.org/search/hadoop
>   http://pkgs.org/search/maven
>   http://pkgs.org/search/subversion
> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding
> policies apply in both cases.
>
> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse
> set of cases of how PMCs are conducting themselves.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.

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