On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote: > So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal dev@ > list operates. > > Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post. > > The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation - that > is an on|off switch so therefore > ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator. > > If you are ok with that I can make the change .
+1 from me. > I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the subscription for > the user in this thread. That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know. > Let me know, > > Gav… > >> On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up Google >> Groups features with our lists) >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> From: jan i <mailto:j...@apache.org> >> Sent: 8/17/2015 1:44 AM >> To: dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org> >> Cc: Roman Shaposhnik <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>; Apache Infrastructure >> <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org> >> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >> >> On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com >> <mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com>> wrote: >> >> > Moderating first posts would be better. >> > >> +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the >> moderators to not get overloaded with work. >> >> Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others. >> >> rgds >> jan i. >> >> >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com <mailto:seb...@gmail.com>] >> > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM >> > To: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> >> > Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>; >> > Apache Infrastructure < >> > infrastruct...@apache.org <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org>> >> > Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >> > >> > This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o >> > <mailto:dev-log@community.a.o> for >> > details) >> > >> > Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. >> > >> > On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org >> > <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> wrote: >> > > This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? >> > > >> > > >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com <mailto:name0905189...@icloud.com>> >> > > Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM >> > > Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at >> > ASF? >> > > To: "dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>" >> > > <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 從我的 iPhone 傳送 >> > > >> > >> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> 於 >> > >> 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道： >> > >> >> > >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org >> > >>> <mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org>> >> > wrote: >> > >>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> > >>>> Bill, >> > >>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" >> > >>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was >> > misleading... >> > >>> >> > >>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww >> > >>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww> >> > >>> .apache.org >> > >>> <http://apache.org/>%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c >> > >>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com >> > >>> <http://40microsoft.com/>%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72 >> > >>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG >> > >>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d >> > >>> >> > >>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to >> > >>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our >> > >>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from >> > >>> publicly providing software using our trademarks. >> > >>> >> > >>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any >> > >>> other corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our >> > >>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are >> > >>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands. >> > >>> >> > >>> Make sense? >> > >> >> > >> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to >> > >> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent. >> > >> >> > >> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >> > >> >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d >> > >> > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d> >> > >> >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d >> > >> > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d> >> > >> >> > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs >> > >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs>. >> > >> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com >> > >> <http://40microsoft.com/> >> > >> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4 >> > >> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d >> > >> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply in >> > >> both cases. >> > >> >> > >> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases of >> > >> how PMCs are conducting themselves. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Roman. >> > > > Gav... > > ( ( ( > ( )\ ) )\ ) )\ ) ( ) > ) > )\ (()/((()/( (()/( )\ ) ( ) ( /( ( ( ( > /( ( ( ( > ((((_)( /(_))/(_)) /(_)) ( (()/( )( ( /( ( )\()))( ))\ ( > )\()) ))\ )( ))\ > )\ _ )\ (_)) (_))_| (_)) )\ ) /(_))(()\ )(_)) )\ (_))/(()\ /((_) )\ > (_))/ /((_)(()\ /((_) > (_)_\(_)/ __|| |_ |_ _| _(_/((_) _| ((_)((_)_ ((_)| |_ ((_)(_))( ((_)| > |_ (_))( ((_)(_)) > / _ \ \__ \| __| | | | ' \))| _|| '_|/ _` |(_-<| _|| '_|| || |/ _| | > _|| || || '_|/ -_) > /_/ \_\ |___/|_| |___||_||_| |_| |_| \__,_|/__/ \__||_| \_,_|\__| > \__| \_,_||_| \___| > > > > >
