Henri,

Since I srewed everything up (artifactId, EventListenerSupport, etc.),
do you want me to re-cut the 3.0-beta release?  I think we should try
to make sure all this is fixed before we "release" a beta.

James

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was -1, but the below is a good argument. +1.
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Well, I think changing the artifactId right now would be the way to
>> go.  That keeps things consistent.  If we move to org.apache.commons
>> groupId now and don't change the artifactId and then later, if we
>> release 4.x, we change the package to lang4 and the artifactId to
>> commons-lang4 it will just be rather inconsistent.  I move for
>> changing it to commons-lang3.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> We don't need the artifact name to necessarily contain the version name
>>> since the group is different. We already have achieved parallel installs
>>> just by doing that.
>>>
>>> I see two choices for the FQN:
>>> org.apache.commons:commons-lang3:3.0-beta-1
>>> org.apache.commons:commons-lang:3.0-beta-1
>>>
>>> Which do you favor?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:01 PM, James Carman 
>>> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, it's
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.commons:commons-lang3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > And we have abandoned commons-lang as the groupId, right?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:57 PM, James Carman <
>>>> ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Ok, just wanted to make sure I wasn't off base here.  Want me to
>>>> >> commit it (it's change on my local)?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > +1. One goal that Henri and I believed in is side-by-side / casual
>>>> >> migration
>>>> >> > of code. You can't do that with the same artifactId.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:50 PM, James Carman <
>>>> >> ja...@carmanconsulting.com>wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> All,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Changing the package name helps, but I think we need to also change
>>>> >> >> the artifactId so that when folks are using maven, they can have both
>>>> >> >> lang3 and older versions on the classpath at the same time.
>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> James
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