It is much easier to get binding votes on a dev@ list than general@. In my
experience, if we can get them here the better.  However!  With Heron, I
often had to bring RC votes to general@ with less than 3 binding votes
because we only had one active mentor. If we didn't have an additional
mentor step up after 7 days had passed since the vote opened, I'd bring the
vote to general@ regardless of the number of binding votes, as long as they
were all +1.
Sometimes you have to rock the boat. :-)










On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 4:16 PM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, the vote on dev@ needs to pass before a vote on general@ can start.
> (Rationale: minimize the traffic on general@ by filtering out dud release
> candidates.) If mentors voted on the dev@ vote they will often reply to
> the general@ vote with “Forwarding my +1 (binding) from dev@“.
>
> > On Mar 19, 2023, at 3:20 AM, Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Calvin,
> > Hello Julian,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for checking the release and helping us adjusting our
> process.
> >
> > Calvin, I see a license and notice file at the root of the binary
> package. Are we supposed to add these files elsewhere? Regarding the maven
> artifacts, the goal is to include them in a future release. Previously, we
> were publishing them on maven central, but we are not sure yet how to
> publish them on apache’s server. Is there a documentation for this? The
> closest I found from a documentation is Zookeepers release procedure [1].
> >
> > Thank you, Julian, for the clarification. If I understand things
> correctly, I should have sent the email for the vote directly to the
> incubator general list and cc'd the Baremaps' dev list. Without further
> notice, I will simply extend this vote by forwarding it to the general
> mailing list on Monday.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bertil
> >
> > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/HowToRelease+using+maven+release+plugin
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 19 Mar 2023, at 04:25, Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> +1 (binding) we used DISCLAIMER-WIP
> >>
> >> I checked:
> >> - incubating in the name
> >> - signature and hashes are fine
> >> - DISCLAIMER-WIP exists
> >> - LICENSE and NOTICE exist
> >> -Can compile from source
> >>
> >> In addition to what Julian said, I have a little addition.
> >> The license file and NOTICE of the binary package are missing. It
> >> seems that we have not done this work. Maybe it can be done in the
> >> next version.
> >> Another point, did we forget to publish maven components? Sorry I
> >> didn't find it, I don't know what I missed.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 1:39 AM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree with your conclusion, not entirely with your reasoning. We
> will need three IPMC votes during the vote on general@i.a.o <mailto:
> general@i.a.o> but we don’t technically need them now, and they don’t
> strictly need to be mentors. We need information, so that you as RM can
> make an informed decision about whether this RC is good. And it is
> reasonable to ask mentors to scrutinize and vote on releases at the dev@
> stage.
> >>>
> >>> I saw that George voted (thanks!). Can we have a vote from one or two
> more mentors - Bertrand, Calvin, Martin - so that if there are problems we
> can save everyone the trouble of an IPMC vote.
> >>>
> >>> Julian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 4:46 AM, Bertil Chapuis <bchap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you all for your valuable input on the release and for the nice
> GitHub activity following our mailing list discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> According to the incubation process [1], we require three IPMC votes
> for approval. We currently have two (thanks, George and Julian) and await a
> third.
> >>>>
> >>>> I propose extending the 72-hour deadline to secure the final IPMC
> vote, after which we'll determine if we release 0.7.1-rc2 or introduce a
> third release candidate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Enjoy your weekend,
> >>>>
> >>>> Bertil
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2023, at 13:00, George Percivall
> <perciv...@ieee.org.INVALID> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> perciv...@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 7:17 AM James Smith <jsm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I change my 0 by a +1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I resolve the problem of the test failing on my machine.
> >>>>>> It was due to the fact that my system was in French and not in
> English.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I track this issue here:
> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/issues/609
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have a good day.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> James Smith
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2023/03/17 09:03:17 James Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Test the bin on macOS 13.2.
> >>>>>>> - Check the hash of the bin and src release.
> >>>>>>> - I have a failed test `IpLocTest.findAll:94 expected: <7> but
> was: <6>`
> >>>>>> with maven 3.8.1, java 17.0.2-oracle will running a `mvn clean
> install`. I
> >>>>>> have not looked why this test failed for the moment.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> James Smith
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2023/03/14 20:20:19 Bertil Chapuis wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Let’s give this a second attempt ;)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please, Do not hesitate to participate and vote even if you're not
> >>>>>> actively involved in the project or if you just subscribed to the
> mailing
> >>>>>> list. This release process is a great opportunity to engage the
> community
> >>>>>> and gather valuable feedback.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have created a build for Apache Baremaps 0.7.1 (incubating),
> release
> >>>>>> candidate 2.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this release and helped
> >>>>>> improving the release process.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You can read the release notes here:
> >>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/releases/tag/v0.7.1-rc2 <
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/releases/tag/v0.7.1-rc2>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The commit to be voted upon:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/commit/6619632bb56dd20d58280329c5105208c342bfc1
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-baremaps/commit/6619632bb56dd20d58280329c5105208c342bfc1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-baremaps.git;a=commit;h=6619632bb56dd20d58280329c5105208c342bfc1
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-baremaps.git;a=commit;h=6619632bb56dd20d58280329c5105208c342bfc1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Its hash is 6619632bb56dd20d58280329c5105208c342bfc1 and its tag
> is
> >>>>>> v0.7.1-rc2.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
> >>>>>>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/baremaps/0.7.1-rc2/ <
> >>>>>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/baremaps/0.7.1-rc2/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> d91dd0f1ebc30a24c7660f6099032eb3b0bc0b36db867dee85e2f8fb6da18113f4b2381fc34a757eb1c0e91522372c66ea75faadc37680cf4c3177ca4eef97a1
> >>>>>> ./baremaps-0.7.1-incubating-src.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> 5023a16b337e75edd58d06b024fb840ad03030885011ab592919aeddc9b1e32fec9969b41037cbb36bb65749e8b05e9da423acac674eba9174ba5001e8fd5074
> >>>>>> ./baremaps-0.7.1-incubating-bin.tar.gz
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
> >>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/bchapuis.asc <
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/bchapuis.asc>
> >>>>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/baremaps/KEYS <
> >>>>>> https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/baremaps/KEYS>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The README file for the src distribution contains instructions for
> >>>>>> building and testing the release.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Baremaps 0.7.1
> >>>>>> (incubating).
> >>>>>>>> The vote is open for the next 72 hours and passes if a majority
> of at
> >>>>>> least three +1 PMC votes are cast.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Baremaps 0.7.1 (incubating)
> >>>>>>>> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the
> release
> >>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is my vote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Verified the GPG signatures
> >>>>>>>> - Verified the SHA256 checksums
> >>>>>>>> - Builded and tested the src distribution
> >>>>>>>> - Installed the bin distribution
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bertil
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best wishes!
> >> CalvinKirs
> >>
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